# Building my new hardware rig! **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 28, 2011, 2:17am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/building-my-new-hardware-rig/21747 "2011-03-28T02:17:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![phaserjunkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b3f665/32.png) [@phaserjunkie](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/phaserjunkie)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 2:17am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/building-my-new-hardware-rig/21747/1 "2011-03-28T02:17:27Z")
**Building my new hardware rig!** Hai Guize, I’m working on a new gear rig. Here’s the problem though, I was thinking about buying an all-in-one like the S4, but then I realized that ALL the promoters here instantaneously assume that those who use a all-in-one are considered either sophomoric or too fresh to the DJ community. Therefore, they disregard those with those rigs. So, I thought about it and decided I wanted to build a convoluted system that’s over the top, and completely unnecessary. Furthermore, I wanted to make mixing a bit more fun than the standard. So here’s what I’ve been looking at, so far, this is not final and this not what I expect to be the outcome. Gear rig: 4x Launchpad 4x Novation Nocturne 1x X-Session Pro 1x Interface (to be determined, I’m looking at a few others that aren’t specifically NI, but I do keep them in mind) /Gear rig Before anyone says anything else, I want to inform you of the purpose of each piece. First, all four of the launchpad’s will work like (in a sense) next-gen decks, meaning, they will each be assigned with different cue-points. However, no one really needs 64 cue-point buttons. That’s why I have this nifty idea where instead of using a knob for roll’s, you can just assign a row or whatnot for that. As for the Nocturnes, those will take the place of FX manipulation, and EQ/Gain control as well as pitch. Basic stuff. And the X-Session Pro will tie the rig together and act as the mixer. Totaling 10 USB cables (Yes, I will be using hubs, not sure on which one no need to link me to the thread though), and I know it will be a mapping nightmare. But what do you guys think? ---
**Author:** ![photojojo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/photojojo/32/14618_2.png) [@photojojo](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/photojojo)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 2:20am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/building-my-new-hardware-rig/21747/2 "2011-03-28T02:20:58Z")
You should add a 52" touchscreen controller to that. Then they’ll take you seriously. ---
**Author:** ![DjNecro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@DjNecro](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/DjNecro)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 2:24am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/building-my-new-hardware-rig/21747/3 "2011-03-28T02:24:57Z")
> [@photojojo](#): > > You should add a 52" touchscreen controller to that. Then they’ll take you seriously. I’ll just leave this here: [ame=“[Töken Experience](http://vimeo.com/13724835)”]töken experience on Vimeo[/ame] ---
**Author:** ![padi\_04](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/padi_04/32/56291_2.png) [@padi\_04](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/padi_04)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 2:30am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/building-my-new-hardware-rig/21747/4 "2011-03-28T02:30:45Z")
and an extra booth ---
**Author:** ![phaserjunkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b3f665/32.png) [@phaserjunkie](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/phaserjunkie)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 2:31am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/building-my-new-hardware-rig/21747/5 "2011-03-28T02:31:04Z")
> [@DjNecro](#): > > I’ll just leave this here: > > töken experience on Vimeo I totally would, but that looks expensive. I mean, if it was fast enough you could do the same with a smart board (those white boards that they project on…). ---
**Author:** ![photojojo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/photojojo/32/14618_2.png) [@photojojo](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/photojojo)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 2:35am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/building-my-new-hardware-rig/21747/6 "2011-03-28T02:35:59Z")
And four USB hubs wired straight into a 220 volt breaker behind the bar. ---
**Author:** ![MrPopinjay](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/mrpopinjay/32/14471_2.png) [@MrPopinjay](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/MrPopinjay)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 2:38am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/building-my-new-hardware-rig/21747/7 "2011-03-28T02:38:25Z")
The x session pro is fucking terrible. Find a different mixer. ---
**Author:** ![josh\_firestorm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/josh_firestorm/32/11798_2.png) [@josh\_firestorm](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/josh_firestorm)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 2:40am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/building-my-new-hardware-rig/21747/8 "2011-03-28T02:40:44Z")
> [@photojojo](#): > > And four USB hubs wired straight into a 220 volt breaker behind the bar. and one laptop for traktor and one laptop for serato and one laptop for ableton and one laptop for vdj and one laptop for mixvibes and one laptop for deckadance and one laptop for email and one laptop for facebook ---
**Author:** ![MrPopinjay](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/mrpopinjay/32/14471_2.png) [@MrPopinjay](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/MrPopinjay)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 2:43am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/building-my-new-hardware-rig/21747/9 "2011-03-28T02:43:26Z")
> [@josh\_firestorm](#): > > and one laptop for traktor > and one laptop for serato > and one laptop for ableton > and one laptop for vdj > and one laptop for mixvibes > and one laptop for deckadance > and one laptop for email > and one laptop for facebook None for DJTT? On a more serious note, do you know exactly how you want to map these? I wouldn’t buy anything before you are sure how you are going to use it. ---
**Author:** ![phaserjunkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b3f665/32.png) [@phaserjunkie](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/phaserjunkie)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 2:43am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/building-my-new-hardware-rig/21747/10 "2011-03-28T02:43:32Z")
> [@MrPopinjay](#): > > The x session pro is fucking terrible. Find a different mixer. I figured that someone would say that. Here’s my logic to keeping it: Yes, we all know the rep the X-Session Pro has, it’s a shitty mixer, on its own. It’s limited to what it can and can’t do, basic DJ functions and very limited FX. However, add some stuff and map it properly, and it can do wonders, or so I’ve seen. Plus, I’ve seen worse mixers for the same price. ---
**Author:** ![photojojo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/photojojo/32/14618_2.png) [@photojojo](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/photojojo)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 2:44am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/building-my-new-hardware-rig/21747/11 "2011-03-28T02:44:20Z")
> [@MrPopinjay](#): > > None for DJTT? The facebook laptop will be a mac so it can handle both. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![MrPopinjay](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/mrpopinjay/32/14471_2.png) [@MrPopinjay](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/MrPopinjay)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 2:45am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/building-my-new-hardware-rig/21747/12 "2011-03-28T02:45:47Z")
> [@phaserjunkie](#): > > I figured that someone would say that. Here’s my logic to keeping it: > > Yes, we all know the rep the X-Session Pro has, it’s a shitty mixer, on its own. It’s limited to what it can and can’t do, basic DJ functions and very limited FX. However, add some stuff and map it properly, and it can do wonders, or so I’ve seen. Plus, I’ve seen worse mixers for the same price. No, I like the design. I just mean I’ve never felt a more flimsy piece of junk. Those knobs feel AWFUL. I really really do not feel they are worth the money at all. I can’t want until someone makes a better mixer style controller. ---
**Author:** ![phaserjunkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b3f665/32.png) [@phaserjunkie](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/phaserjunkie)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 2:55am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/building-my-new-hardware-rig/21747/13 "2011-03-28T02:55:46Z")
> [@MrPopinjay](#): > > None for DJTT? > > On a more serious note, do you know exactly how you want to map these? I wouldn’t buy anything before you are sure how you are going to use it. Ahh, I’m actually working on that right now… It’s going to be a loooong process, So far I’ve broken it down… One Nocturn for each Launchpad, FX presets/combos, each button goes to a different FX, one for EQ/Gain control. That or maybe two Livid Codes… ---
**Author:** ![MrPopinjay](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/mrpopinjay/32/14471_2.png) [@MrPopinjay](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/MrPopinjay)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 2:58am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/building-my-new-hardware-rig/21747/14 "2011-03-28T02:58:41Z")
Oh man I’d totally forgotten about the livid code. I want one now. D: ---
**Author:** ![phaserjunkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b3f665/32.png) [@phaserjunkie](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/phaserjunkie)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 3:04am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/building-my-new-hardware-rig/21747/15 "2011-03-28T03:04:28Z")
> [@MrPopinjay](#): > > Oh man I’d totally forgotten about the livid code. I want one now. D: That’ll be a mapping hell… First you have about 32 knobs to map and then multiply that by 14… And then you also have to map all the pushed knobs. You only really need to map it once though. ---
**Author:** ![MrPopinjay](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/mrpopinjay/32/14471_2.png) [@MrPopinjay](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/MrPopinjay)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 3:13am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/building-my-new-hardware-rig/21747/16 "2011-03-28T03:13:29Z")
Multiplied by 14? How come? ---
**Author:** ![Coldfuzion](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/coldfuzion/32/11417_2.png) [@Coldfuzion](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Coldfuzion)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 3:19am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/building-my-new-hardware-rig/21747/17 "2011-03-28T03:19:04Z")
What the fuck is this? ---
**Author:** ![padi\_04](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/padi_04/32/56291_2.png) [@padi\_04](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/padi_04)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 3:19am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/building-my-new-hardware-rig/21747/18 "2011-03-28T03:19:10Z")
> [@MrPopinjay](#): > > No, I like the design. I just mean I’ve never felt a more flimsy piece of junk. Those knobs feel AWFUL. I really really do not feel they are worth the money at all. I can’t want until someone makes a better mixer style controller. You’ve tried a nanoKontrol? those are shitty knobs/faders ---
**Author:** ![MrPopinjay](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/mrpopinjay/32/14471_2.png) [@MrPopinjay](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/MrPopinjay)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 3:21am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/building-my-new-hardware-rig/21747/19 "2011-03-28T03:21:12Z")
The difference is that the nanokontrol is much cheaper and isn’t pretending to be a piece of kit which will be taking a lot of punishment. Mixers should be tough! - I honestly think the nanokontrol has nicer feeling knobs than the xsession. ---
**Author:** ![thisisdjkaz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecccb3/32.png) [@thisisdjkaz](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/thisisdjkaz)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 3:22am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/building-my-new-hardware-rig/21747/20 "2011-03-28T03:22:39Z")
> [@phaserjunkie](#): > > I thought about it and decided I wanted to build a convoluted system that’s over the top, and completely unnecessary. you are certainly going in the right direction. [Next page](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/building-my-new-hardware-rig/21747.md?page=2)