Come on NI - you know you want to release this...

^^^^ Me too, but i aint NI centric :wink:

But what if your audience isn’t really digging your set and you need to change it up a bit. This is why I need complete access to all of my music on a screen that doesn’t make it a hassle to find it.

I don’t like spending all my time staring at a laptop screen either but it is just so damn handy having all of my music there ready to go only a few clicks away I don’t think I could give that up.

I used that thing at best buy, first problem. And man beat matching on that laggy slow thing was a pain in the arse. Granted I only spent about 5 mins on it, but 5 mins was all I needed to know to stay away.

that’s actually a really interesting controller concept - shame the realisation doesn’t meet expectations.

Me too, that thing is absolutely horrific.

No they didn’t. The Maschine software (and it’s GUI) is a HUGE part of working with Maschine. Yes, there are some elements of Maschine that can be left to the hardware interface, but I can’t imagine using it without the software open right in front of me. Are you going to force users to go through a 3 line list of songs in an LCD to browse their library? And if there is a moving waveform in the display, where do I get the heads up of seeing across a full static waveform where my cue and loop points are? What about sample decks? There’s tons of data in the software GUI that users take advantage of - why take a step backwards and eliminate that?

We use computers to perform now. We need to collectively get over the idea that these devices don’t belong in a DJ booth.

What you’re saying is true but you have to admit a large part of NI’s marketing campaign (for the Maschine but also the S4) is the notion of ridding a producer of the need to use a mouse and keyboard as much.

I’m not really saying that we should totally get rid of laptops from the dj booth, I’m just saying that NI are in the best possible position to give DJ’s the choice of how much they interact with the laptop when DJ’ing. As it stands at the moment, Traktor and hardware like the S4 simply don’t offer the same level of hardware/software integration as other NI products do (like Maschine).

This idea is AWESOME!!!

the jogs are useless on this piece..Best Buy would probably sell more if they got rid of the floor model.

I have mixed feelings about this. On the one hand, yes, way cool. On the other, I don’t think it really solves the problem of screen distraction to put more screens on things. You’re still gonna be watching a screen, it’s just that you moved the screen to your controller instead of your laptop. On the other hand (yes I have 3 hands now), make those waveforms touchscreens and some cool possibilities might open up. But in the end if you want to get away from screens, spin vinyl or use DVS and cover your screen up. Moving the screen doesn’t really fix the problem; it just distributes it.

you could say the same thing about the displays on CDJ2000’s…

I really don’t get this thread at all. I mean if you are using Traktor your laptop still needs to be in the booth to run the software. So why then sacrifice my lovely 13-17inch screen that is already in the booth for a 4 - 5 inch (max in my opinion) screen on my controller? I’m I missing something?

The pads I agree with. Them Maschine pads are really tactile!!!

NI make money on software, whatever they bring out will be tied to the software.
That will never change. They wont make anything that takes the software out of the equation (for DJs).

I dunno if I’m not making my point very clearly, or if I’m preaching to the wrong people, but all I’m asking for is a Traktor controller that allows the same level of integration as NI provides with Maschine. In other words, a hardware solution that is still tied to the Traktor software, in the same way that Maschine is.

No more, no less :confused:

Everyone who’s saying that they like using a laptop to DJ with can continue to do so. But if the controller I’m daydreaming about in the screenshot above was realised, then we’d have a CHOICE of how we interact with Traktor.

surely that’s a win/win for everyone?

Anyone who’s still saying it’s a stupid idea need to take it up with the designers of Maschine - because NI clearly think it’s a good idea. It’s just a shame they don’t offer that kind of software/hardware integration across the whole of their product line.

By the way, this whole conversation would be moot if NI would release some sort of API / SDK for Traktor (in the same way that Ableton have). Then they could let other programmers have a go at creating solutions that allow deeper levels of integration with Traktor.(*)

Just because some people can’t imagine the possibilities of this, doesn’t make it a worthless idea.

(*) For example, the work done by myself and others here:

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All videos above done by myself except the bottom one done by DJTT member, Siytek. DJTT member DJ Necro has also been heavily involved with these Traktor mods.

still waiting NI… :stuck_out_tongue:

Nice, timely bump Milo :wink:

Great topic. :slight_smile:

given what DJTT has just posted on their blog, I thought this thread needed another timely bump!

edit: spot the differences…

Nice bump and even better call back then :slight_smile: