What a post, thanks for that! You have made me want to go back to ableton and rethink the way I was mixing in ableton in the past.
Thanks again mate 
I understand what your saying. I feel the same when just using cdj’s in a club. I feel more ‘connected’ with the music if that’s the correct word to use. Something special about playing your own remix, custom edit live using cd’s.
[QUOTE=ibarry;180853]Ok ok the title of the topic was a bit misleading my bad. Anyway, my point is, I was at a gig last weekend and some bozo made a comment saying I’m not really dj’ing since I was using a laptop.
some people will always love to tell you what you can’t do .. look at the room full of happy bouncy people and they’ll tell you what’s important to them .. nod at the nice young man 
and carry on doing what you can’t do ..
the only person worth the effort of proving anything too is yourself 
so very true.
Yeah. I’ve done it with CDJs and SSL as well. I didn’t spend enough time with just vinyl before I got SSL to really do it with just that…and I never did manage to track down a Cycloops. 
I did, however, buy a good number of breakbeats and minimal tunes with no intention of ever playing them by themselves.
Still…it happens more often with Live and I guess I’m the only one so influenced by pics and recordings of Sasha and his Maven that it seems more interesting to me that way than with Vinyl. Maybe it’s that my close friends and I understand turntable DJing well enough that we can tell what the tricks are (a lot of the time, and we are by no means experts to the level of a lot of people on here). But, I’ve had people watch me spin with Ableton who had no idea where things were happening…people who generally knew what they were doing. That’s rewarding in a very different, very nerdy kind of way that appeals to me.
No problem. Glad you enjoyed it. The more Sasha wanna-bes we have running around in place of the deadmau5 wanna-bes, the better Ableton DJing in general will get, imho.
(please note: I do not think Tom Cosm and all the other guys doing something closer to “live production” are deadmau5 wanna-bes.)
I smell a Simpsons quote. A good one.
So very true, everyone was bouncing, I was jumping about the booth like a loony. Was a good night. As long as people are digging it, who cares! Oh and did I mention the guy who was complaining said he was a Dj too. Hate that. I don’t care if you Dj. Doesnt make a difference if you do or not.
//rant over lol
idk why they hate on laptop djs, manually beat matching is not hard at all… just annoying. Its annoying have to monitor the next track w/ headphones then count the beats and look at your watch for a minute just to find the estimated bpm. Then you have mess around w/ the pitch slider and waste more time. Then you have to write the bpm on the record sleeve or cd.. thats kind of ghetto and outdated. Thats like keeping in contact w/ a pager when everyone is sexting w/ iphone 4’s.
Your mix sounded nice btw. I saw that it took you like 2-3 minutes to set up each song… I guess others feel its rewarding to do all that, but they look like theyre always serious and like theyre concentrating hard frantically alternating between decks and nudging the platter or jog wheels to keep them synchronized.
sorry for jumping on the thread.. but just wanted to state my opinion since im a vinyl dj.
Thanks, yeah it does take a while to get the tracks synced on that thing. The tempo control is not accurate at all, much easier to get two tracks dialed in with tt’s or cd’s.
you get those every time. wannabe MCs, wannabe DJs… the latter usually keep on telling you stories about who they worked together with (translation: played a warm-up set for ) - as if that’s gonna change the fact that it’s you who are in the booth and they who are outside. something I never understood…
No doubt someone will say that to me this weekend again. I get it at least once or twice a month. ‘I’m a DJ, play this everyone will dance’ or another pet peeve… ‘I can’t dance to this, put someone on I can dance to’ and I just point to a full dance floor. Gr!
and belt driven turn tables at that…those direct drive systems are way to easy to cue on! its cheating…
Nice read… nice job
Lol my very first tt’s were belt drive. I do think it’s good to learn to beatmatch on belt drive tt’s. You have to learn to ride the pitch fader
why don’t you guys mix with TT’s without pitch fader? o.o
players with pitch fader are way too easy. You got two hands and two feet. Use them to slow and speed up the record. o.o
i used to be very opinionated about this, but having seen what traktor can do, i.e. 4 channels all in sync and in key…what dj in their right mind would turn that down.
plus after 11 years or so i feel ive paid my dues to traditional beatmatching so ive no problem allowing a computer too look after that while so i can be more creative.
i have had the odd drunken dick try to slate me for it, but i use scratch pro, so can still fire in the timecode cd’s and scratch away like a mother-lover, beat juggle etc… to shut them up
Funny you should say that… I was contemplating finding a couple of old portable cassette players, taking the front off and trying to beat match slowing down the motor with my finger on one of the players. Be quite interesting to see what we could actually beat match on lol
There’s some fingerstoppin beatmatching in there, so it counts as a valid attempt at tjing, i guess
that is fucking incredible! I actually preferred the tape scratching to the decks
whats up with this beat match pissing contest?? this is my set up right here… and dont none’ya’ll try to steal any of my ultra rare dubtapes either. real DJs use 8TRACK TAPE! :
having a pitch-knob or fader REALLY isn’t different from pushing a sync-button.
I slow down my belt-drivens with weights attached to them.
My tape sample deck can only be pitched BY HAND!
EDIT: oh noes’ tigerstyle’s setup beat mine, now I look like a gimp.