Drugs

Drugs

I once joked that cause I was pill’n on ADHD meds all threwout my childhood I was simply graduating to the extra strength stuff with adulthood (with pharmaceutical opiates), sarcastically passing the behavior passed down from my schools, parents, doctors, and society for throwing pills at every problem (even if the problems a child) With highly promoted products like Children’s Tylenol it almost seems we’re programed from “children ages 2 and above” - the Tylenol brand. They say every joke has some truth to it, and lets see the harm in this equation…

Dj game: off it’s game; Production game: not happenin’ at it’s usual 110%, enough said…

I’d best describe fighting a “come down” as running from a growing hangover that accumulates every time your choice of drug is consumed, so when you run out, get caught, or take good initiative to quit, take the worse hangover you’ve ever had and times that by the number of times you’ve “pop’d” “snort’d” “smoked” or “fixed” that drug and you’ll get a decent idea of the detox experience..

Like the amazing human body would as if you’d ingested any other poison, it rejects the substance and process it out in the most painful of ways… This is both physically and mentally painful and last in the range of a few days to a few weeks.. the only guarantee is you’ll be hating life until it’s over. The worse part about this entire “withdrawal” course is the only cure to end all this is the very substance that brought you to this hell to begin with as mentioned earlier if you take that route you’ve just added more pain when you do finally come down. Newtons law “Whatever goes up Must come down”

everydays a battle you don’t gotta fight. - S

Drugs are bad 'mmkay?

Drug free since 1993.

Oh I thought this was going to be the same as the “I iz Drunk Thread”.
Damn :stuck_out_tongue:

Hey man I think a lot of us have been down that road. If you’re anything like me, you’ll just kind of grow out of it. I do enjoy some a glass (or two) of whiskey several times a week, but that’s about as far as I’ll go.

I lost a couple buddies with problems, and I almost lost myself.

Lost too many friends..'nough said

I do love my herb though

yeah… been to the dark side… came back…stayed in the light and now i can turn the lights off for a bit once in a while but i make sure i’ve always got one hand on the light switch…

that whole analogy makes sense when you’re high.

Yeah…I stick to them herbs these days too.

Doesn’t make me fucked up for a week afterward and don’t feel the need to sell my gear for more when its done.

:wink:

erbs be where its at.

drugs like alcohol, weed, ect are fun. just as long as you can keep it under control.
just like listening to tearing basslines, it’s great, but after a while it can make you deaf if you don’t take some precautions.

<3 special brownies :smiley:

Interesting article from last year where our governement set their own Drugs advisory council to definitively find out what is going on with drugs and their effects. Unfortunately without taking away from the validity of this artcile the chairman of the council was called David Nutt and he got sacked…Headline read: PROFESSOR NUTT SACKED!!!

"Professor David Nutt, the government’s chief drug adviser, has been sacked a day after claiming that ecstasy and LSD were less dangerous than alcohol.

Nutt incurred the wrath of the government when he claimed in a paper that alcohol and tobacco were more harmful than many illegal drugs, including LSD, ecstasy and cannabis.

A Home Office spokesperson said: "The home secretary has asked Professor Nutt to resign as chair of the ACMD [Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs].

"In a letter he [Alan Johnson] expressed surprise and disappointment over Professor Nutt’s comments which damage efforts to give the public clear messages about the dangers of drugs.

“We remain determined to crack down on all illegal substances and minimise their harm to health and society as a whole.”

Nutt had criticised politicians for “distorting” and “devaluing” the research evidence in the debate over illicit drugs.

Arguing that some “top” scientific journals had published “horrific examples” of poor quality research on the alleged harm caused by some illicit drugs, the Imperial College professor called for a new way of classifying the harm caused by both legal and illegal drugs.

“Alcohol ranks as the fifth most harmful drug after heroin, cocaine, barbiturates and methadone. Tobacco is ranked ninth,” he wrote in the paper from the centre for crime and justice studies at King’s College, London, published yesterday.

“Cannabis, LSD and ecstasy, while harmful, are ranked lower at 11, 14 and 18 respectively.”

Nutt said tonight he was disappointed by the decision but linked it to “political” considerations. “It’s unusual political times, I suppose, elections and all that. It’s disappointing,” he told Sky News. “But politics is politics and science is science and there’s a bit of a tension between them sometimes.”

Nutt clashed with Jacqui Smith when she was home secretary after he compared the 100 deaths a year from horseriding with the 30 deaths a year linked to ecstasy.

Smith also ignored the recommendation of Nutt’s advisory committee that cannabis should not be reclassified from class C back to class B, leading to heavier penalties.

He criticised Smith’s use of the “precautionary principle” to justify her decision to reclassify cannabis and said that by erring on the side of caution politicians “distort” and “devalue” the research evidence.

“This leads us to a position where people really don’t know what the evidence is,” he said adding that the initial decision to downgrade the classification of cannabis led to a fall in the use of the drug.

Nutt acknowledged there was a “relatively small risk” of psychotic illness linked to cannabis use. But he argued that to prevent one episode of schizophrenia it would be necessary to “stop 5,000 men aged 20 to 25 from ever using” cannabis.

Nutt also renewed his support for reclassifying ecstasy from a class A drug to class B, saying the advisory committee “won the intellectual argument” over the issue but obviously didn’t win the decision after the home secretary vetoed the move.

He said the quality of some research papers about cannabis and ecstasy was so poor the articles had to be retracted.

Richard Garside, director of the centre for crime and justice, said Nutt’s briefing paper gave an insight into what drugs policy might look like if it was based on the research evidence rather than political or moral positioning.

Gearside added: "I’m shocked and dismayed that the home secretary appears to believe that political calculation trumps honest and informed scientific opinion. The message is that when it comes to the Home Office’s relationship with the research community honest researchers should be seen but not heard.

“The home secretary’s action is a bad day for science and a bad day for the cause of evidence-informed policy making.”

Take from this what you will but it does prove a couple of points:

  1. Drug classification is sometimes political, education is a better form of prevention than criminalisation
  2. Alchohol is bad (damn!)

+10000000

damn straight

im straight edge. its funny how when i tell people that i get mocked sometimes or people think im weird. i just choose not to indulge in drugs or alcohol but i dont pass judgment on those who do. it makes life and gigs a lot easier!

I used to listen to a lot of straight edge punk, and whenever i would go to a show people would mock me for smoking and drinking. But what can i say, i have my vice’s, but it was damn good music.

More OT-
These guy’s were so straight edge they didn’t use anything, including instruments…

YES JUD JUD! One of the funniest bands i have ever heard. the grindcore one is one of my favorites.

yep - been there done that, i so remember those bender days of being awake for very long (sometimes just mixing and chilling with mates - bad habit!)

now that i have a daughter all the had habits been kicked off for many years - i dont even smoke cigarettes no more and very very rarely consume alcohol, decided to focus all my extra energy on going to the gym and that seems to be working - now im more concerned about my protein intake and how much bench i can push on my next workout lol

My son’s straight edge. Or at least he’s smart enough to make me think he’s straight edge. :smiley:

I didn’t do drugs throughout school and only dabbled in alcohol until I was in the military and alcohol use was commonplace. I never drove drunk - keeping my alcohol consumption to 1 drink per hour or riding home with a friend or taking a cab.

Once I entered the workforce I was working high profile jobs that could have me tested at any time. When you change jobs every 6-8 months as a contractor, and you’re tested when you start - it just wasn’t practical for me to every even try anything else.

After a short period of time with alcohol, I developed an appreciation for fine liquors. When you’re spending $135 (or more) on a 5th of cognac you don’t get drunk on the stuff. The cheapest thing I drink any more is Maker’s Mark - and prefer to make my own beer (homebrew - woot!) and wine. When the stuff you drink is expensive enough you drink a lot less of it… :wink: and you stock the cheap stuff for when your friends come over. :eek: