What’s up guys, i’d really love to hear everyones opinion here.
So went out to this club in town tonight (2nd time ever, been of age for 4 years). I’ve always written this place off as being filled with too many douche bags and a place you can’t go too without getting into a fight. The first time I was there a chick fight happened and tonight I found myself nearly in one for pulling a girl away from a creepy dude (We all know the guy, the dude who basically dances like a fool on the girl). Anyways it was a total buzz kill on my night.
Now looking at the landscape of clubs where I live they’re all the same commercial clubs that are trying to be “like Vegas.” I’ve been thinking for a while it’d be cool to open a club and just all the things I’d do differently. The biggest thing I would want for the club is safety/zero tolerance. If you’re found fighting in my hypothetical club, you’d be banned for life. To me it takes one fight to ruin the atmosphere of the place. I think safety is so important to a club. I don’t plan on going back to that club now because unfortunately i’m sure the same idiots will be there. And now I will tell people not to go there. I’m well aware that this isn’t an isolated incident but imagine the difference if people were saying the opposite about a club “Let’s go there cause we don’t have to deal with any assholes, cause they’ve likely been banned”
What are your guys thoughts on this? Do any clubs that you frequent have any kind of policy like this in place? What is done to make the place safe?
I find that clubs who promote a strong sense of ‘community’ - for example based around a specific music scene, tend to have less trouble. Commercial clubs with transient punters who just want to get drunk and laid, less so…
But you can’t guarantee fight free, because you can never tell when a drunken knob-end who has no intention of ever coming back may turn up.
And don’t employ security who enjoy throwing people down stairs and stuff - that helps too.
Haha I definitely couldn’t guarantee but I totally agree the more that you build a community within the club the faster the weeds get picked out. Kind of like our forum here, trolls got spotted and booted almost immediately.
I was having this same conversation with my manager and again in our hypothetical club bouncers would play a huge part in customer service. I think bouncers are overlooked big time, they’re your first point of contact with the club and often not the nicest first point of contact. It’d be nice to find that balance between a super friendly bouncer who’s also willing to take out the trash when necessary.
As mentioned, once a club is gone commercial, basically if they advertise instead of “word of mouth” things go down hill.
I used to attend a club in SF that was really nice, very friendly vibe, security team was always good about informing people of the rules. The music was also really varied, house in the main room, drum and bass in the basement (which was rare to find at any club on a Friday night), plus other music in the three other rooms.
A few years later I went back to the same club, after it became more popular and somewhat main stream. Way different, about triple the security, plus the people there weren’t music fans. The vibe of the club just felt off, wasn’t the same.
Word of mouth is what I’m hoping would work. And again I’d love that if the place was do focused on safety that any moron would immediately be flushed out by people who want to maintain that atmosphere
There’s a club I’ve been going to pretty regularly for the last 3 years, and I’ve seen only one incident. It was a drunk guy that wouldn’t leave, and when the bouncer was escorting him out, he pulled the bouncer down a flight of stairs and subsequently had some teeth removed for it. The bar plays mainly indy music, and attracts a nerdier university crowd. There is generally more girls, but because they don’t play top 40, there’s a lot less popped collars there. The bouncers are all smaller dudes too because of the lack of fights.
@Nicky H haha too true, it will be millennia before evolution weeds this out.
For those of you who go to places where this isn’t frequent do you notice a difference in age groups? Does it happen more or less when the age group is younger?
Very much so in my case. I club hopped last night (22 years old btw), and the first one was a more high-brow Moroccan themed wine lounge that featured mostly house music and electro. Mostly a 27-30+ crowd, much more mature and respectful.
The second was a nightclub and sports bar combined, so you can imagine which side of the coin this one fell on. Trashy commercial billboard/Top-40 joint, definitely more prone to fighting, because all people want to do is like someone said: get drunk and get laid.
So to answer your question, I think the magic age in which it tends to be somewhere in the 27-30 year old range. Although, it ultimately depends on the setting and type of place. There’s always a few bad apples to ruin a good basket.
@DJ Sunshine, very interesting. I can definitely see the reason why there are bars where you need to be 25 or older. I’d hate to do that though to the younger ones who are clearly mature and respectful enough that they don’t do anything stupid. Where I live there’s a strip of bars that just gets populated by the same morons. I think getting out of that location would be best.
What’s in place for security at some venues you guys go to? I know when I went to Fortune Sound Club in Vancouver they scanned ID’s and took pictures. Which I think is awesome, this way your not some anonymous idiot who can show up the next weekend.
Oh, this was a standard 21+ place, it’s just it wasn’t frequented by d00shcannons and catered to a more mature young adult crowd. Sorry if there was confusion.
Security ranges on the place. At the wine lounge, it was just a big door guy checking IDs. At the sports bar cesspool, it was basically 4-5 bouncers all standing around the dancefloor and DJ (which would’ve made me happy ). I think the level of security depends largely on the type of people the venue attracts.
I’ve been clubbing for a couple years now(21 in june) and have only been to top40 clubs a handful of times. Not by choice, because honestly its full of a bunch of d-bags and the music is terrible. Always see fights in those clubs, and the overall atmosphere is weird. Then you got the got the gems that are more undergound, those are the places I like to go. Lately I’ve noticed a different crowd going to this one spot here in toronto, music is always great and i’ve yet to see a fight go down there.
). I think the level of security depends largely on the type of people the venue attracts.