First Wedding - Tips?

First Wedding - Tips?

So I’m going to be DJ’ing my first wedding (big news, i know :slight_smile: ) on sept. 10th. The thing though, is that it’s a second wedding for the both of them meaning that the music they like is pretty old in my book and I’ve never DJ’d seriously that type of music.

I’m not worried so much about the food music and other BKG type of music, but when the first dance comes along along with the three or four hours of dancing, how would you guys go about mixing/do any of you have good mixtapes of that type of music so i can listen and learn how to mix older music (like 70’s and 80’s pop, some 90’s).

Thanks everyone!

Oh, and any other tips would be great too.

If I tell you what to play do I get a cut in the pay?

:stuck_out_tongue: haha, what to play isn’t really what i need help with - the bride and groom have 3/4 of the playlist laid out for me. I can figure out order, that shouldn’t be hard.

It’s more mixing techniques - especially for pretty different BPMs

:wink: You should keep in mind that for the most part, these old types won’t be chin stroking your blending…in fact they could care less I would imagine, if you nail the tail end of Sly and the Family Stone’s Everyday People into Fleetwood Mac’s Second Hand News perfectly.
It’s nice when they naturally present themselves, you know - you pick a next tune and realize they could probably be mixed in tightly…go for it. But if the requests are streaming in from Ella’s slow styles to Michael’s up beat stuff…fuck it: party fade :stuck_out_tongue:

Of course, after a few hours you might start pulling off some nice remixes and proper blends when the drinks are flowing and people want more consistently dancy stuff.

bridesmaids. get em.

OMG - like you’re the deejay? tee hee!

First let me say congrats.

Second let me say good luck lol.

I’ve been DJ’ing for 13 years now, and have been doing weddings for about half that. I started DJ’ing house in an after hours club where you show up and play your own set, and never take requests. So it was a HARD transition to make, but I’ve learned a lot through experience whether it’s how to be prepared, how to deal with the problem people, and how room layout and type of wedding make a HUGE difference. There’s a lot of things you learn on the job that just come with experience. Here are some of the most common people I meet at weddings

The nightmare bridesmaid: The kind that act like you should have the entire history of recorded music because you’re a DJ, and ends up making comments like "what kind of DJ are you?! When you don’t have what they’re looking for. I will usually try to diplomatically respond with “I’m a DJ, but it’s impossible to have the entire history of recorded music. I just try to do what I can”. If that doesn’t work, this usually shuts them up “I’ll play whatever you want as long as I have it, but if you’re going to be rude then I won’t bother”. I went to a friend’s wedding, where one of the bridesmaids (whom I knew), was a total music elitist and a hipster. She had a really specific list of songs by groups like Cut Copy, and such, and was angry all night about how the DJ wasn’t playing any of her songs. I tried explaining to her that that kind of music doesn’t really fly at weddings, and her response was “THERE’S NOBODY DANCING!” I said that’s unfortunate, but you still have to stick with the wedding music in case people come back to the floor. If you start busting out the psychedelic trance because that’s what you like, then you can count on the dancefloor being empty for the rest of the night. She didn’t understand that, but the DJ (who happened to be a friend), stuck to his guns and people started dancing again. He also complained about that girl too lol.

The “I know what song is guaranteed to make everyone dance” guy/girl:

This is the person that seems always claims to have the MAGIC song that’ll make everyone dance. Not realizing how ridiculous a statement they’ve just made. True story: Some guy said this to me and I replied "OH YEAH? Guaranteed?! note the sarcasm. So I said “What is it?!” He said “I wish I was a baller by Skee-Lo”. Me with an unimpressed look on my face. So I put it on, and whaddya know…Nobody was dancing. My guess is because it was a HUGE room, and the bar was on the other side of the dancefloor (I’ll get to room layout in a bit). Really, you can’t do anything about this. Sometimes this type of person can get really irritating when they come back and say that they have another song that’s guaranteed. I’ve had to politely tell people at weddings that it’s not automatically the DJ’s fault if nobody is dancing, and they’ve respectfully agreed.

In terms of the actual music, I’ll usually start with something old like “stuck in the middle” by Stealers Wheel. Everyone knows those kinds of songs, and the old people usually want to dance before they have to call it a night at 11, so I start with the old tracks, and move progressively newer as the night goes on. Sometimes you just read the crowd, and if someone asks for Drake and nobody is dancing to the Jackson 5, then I’ll do a quick backspin on the oldies and put on the current stuff. At one of the last weddings, the groom said “don’t play any of the usual wedding crap, just bust out the current stuff HARD!” So I said “don’t have to ask me twice!” And backspinned out of The Archies (backspins are great if you put on a track only to realize QUICKLY that nobody is feeling it). With a lot of oldies you can’t really beatmatch. I use the VCI-100 which is pretty much useless for riding the pitch, so I’ll just do a quick cut with the crossfader and press play.

In terms of what to play, it’s really all about reading the crowd.

Room Layout:
This is a HUGE deal. When I studied music production, they said one of the most important things about planning an event, is to have a venue where people are packed, as opposed to a room that’s too big. A big room presents the illusion of a not-so-good party. The other thing is that a lot of people are apprehensive about dancing, so being in a huge, brightly lit banquet hall wouldn’t help that. You can’t do anything about the venue, except be prepared. And understand, that if you only get 10-15 people dancing, it’s not such a bad thing sometimes.

Bar placement can be a HUGE deal too. If the bar is outside the room, then you have your work cut out for you. People like to take advantage of the open bar, and if the bar is outside of the dancefloor, then it means they’re less likely to dance.

Recently I’ve had the pleasure of DJ’ing at a couple weddings downtown, for some urban young professionals. These weddings were cocktails and hors d’ouvres, and standing room only. One of them was packed to capacity, and I couldn’t believe how much I had the place rockin’. It was in a prime area for bars/club in my city, so people across the street that were waiting in line to get in somewhere, heard the music, ran over, and realized it was a private party. My wife was outside with her friends at some point, and said the music was so loud, and there were so many people really rocking out, that it looked like an awesome party, and it was.

Preparedness:
The MOST important thing is to have as much music as possible. This was one of my biggest hurdles when I was starting. You can NEVER have too much music, so this should be one of the key things that you’re always working on. And don’t assume that because it’s a wedding they won’t want to hear trance, or something like that. I try to stay as broad as possible, and if someone requests something I don’t have, I make sure I get it for the next wedding.

Cables: I travel with a case of spare cables. Multiple extension cords, RCA’s, XLR’s, etc. etc. Some of the stuff I don’t even use, or need, but again, since you’re the DJ, people expect you to have them. You’re also sometimes the closest thing to an on-site A/V technician, so people will actually expect you to have these things. I also carry multiple adapters. RCA to 1.4 inch, rca splitters, 3.5 to 1.4inch, etc. etc.

Legal: Don’t forget to have terms and conditions. It doesn’t need to be drafted by a lawyer, but something clearly written that the client can sign that absolves you of any liability if a drunk person knocks over a speaker and hurts themselves. It’s something you’ll never need until it happens, but once it happens it’ll be too late, and you could find yourself in a legal battle or in small claims court. Better to cover your ass in advance.

That’s about all I can think of right now. I’ll contribute what I can if I think of anything else.

Most of all, HAVE FUN! I think it’s important for a DJ to get into it (there was even an article on here about that). One of the last weddings I’ve DJ’d at, the grooms father even said it’s so rare to see a wedding DJ that’s really into the music. Funny thing is, i can’t stand commercial music, and I would never listen to it at home.

I agree.

Regular wedding people don’t care at all about mixing (for the most part). I’ve even heard of DJ’s in this city charging $1200 WITHOUT mixing…Which in my opinion, makes a DJ useless. If you don’t mix at all, you’re no better than an iPod.

Lot’s of songs are hard to mix, and nearly impossible to beatmatch (especially since popular music usually has a melody from beginning to end, unlike house where there’s an 8 bar intro and outro of just the beat.

I usually just cut back and forth while pressing play. Practice this if it’s a technique you don’t use. You’ll have to get used to the latency timing and such in order to make it sound flawless.

If you think mixing is a big part of why wedding DJ’s deserve to get the usual fee of upwards of $1000, you don’t really understand their job fully. :wink:

lol!

I’ve said this before on this topic, and I’ll say it again… If you have no experience in weddings, and admittedly don’t feel you have the know-how to do ANY particular part of it, GTFO of the situation ASAP, and let the people get someone who knows what they are doing. You are putting yourself at risk of a lawsuit (Wedding DJ disasters regularly end up in litigation). Put yourself in their shoes too. If this were your wedding, would you want someone who has no wedding experience DJing one of the most important days of your life? This is a huge day for the couple, and you could potentially put a huge mar on it. If they are friends who wanted you for what you do, ignore everything I’ve said. That’s a complete different story. If they however are asking you to DJ simply because they know you have equipment and “know you’re a DJ”, you could seriously burn a bridge. If you feel you really want/have to go through with this, try to get a partner who knows what they are doing.
Don’t possibly ruin one of the most memorable days of a couples lives by using it as a trial run/test gig/easy money grab.

Having just attended my sister’s wedding, I’ll say this:

She asked me for a list of songs to give to the DJ. I gave her a bunch of more accessible top40/house/electro house remixes that I thought should have some decent appeal for the mainly 30s to 40s crowd I expected. The DJ played none of them. He played pretty much what I would expect for the 50s-60s crowd: Mustang Sally, a fair amount of disco, and various classics of a similar vein. This had all the drunken aunts and uncles dancing, though it left most of the younger segment off the floor. He kept those who were dancing dancing, and in that respect he succeeded. I would not be surprised to hear that this is par for the course for weddings, and considering the lighting (soft mood lighting instead of any actual club oriented lighting) I think it was appropriate. He didn’t take risks and played it safe. It was mediocre with basically no mixing, just volume fades at the ends of songs.

Really to me it seems like song selection is more key than mixing at weddings, and know your audience. Club bangers will get the 20s-30s crowd dancing, but you’ll probably leave out the older crowd if you throw them in. So feel out your room and play what you think will work - but most importantly had a backup plan. If you only have EDM and EDM falls flat with your crowd, you will be hosed.

+1

Also, make sure you know your cues/spots for the MC and crowd work. If I felt comfortable about where, when, and how to do it, I would probably do weddings. Mic work is a huge part of it. Knowing when and how to do intros and then interacting with the crowd during dinner and during the dancing is crucial, as is knowing how to keep it at a reasonable amount.

That’s not at all what I said.

That’s some nice conclusion jumping though. Too bad you can’t get paid upwards of $1000 for that.

A lot of people think mic-work is ridiculous and should be reserved for the strip-clubs or for wedding DJ’s that think people actually like the Macarena.

MC’ing and making intros is one thing, but having a guy yap on the mic about how you’re going to dance around the world while he plays different styles of ethnic music is for DJ’s that can’t let the music talk for them.

IMO at least.

this again - check out some of the previous threads on this

I have to admit that I used to subscribe to that 100%. Then I got married, and saw how our DJ interacted with the crowd through mic work throughout the whole reception. He did it all night, but only in certain spots, with tastefulness, and didn’t overstep his bounds. It really opened my eyes to what a wedding DJ SHOULD do on the Mic. Honestly, everyone was very impressed, and it added to the event more than you can imagine.

Personally i have done enough weddings to last me a life time. Heres what i have learned.

  • No one at a wedding (usually) cares about mixing.

  • You will almost have to use a microphone. But over use of a micro phone can lead to a train wreck.

  • Try and suit everybody in the crowd, That means playing everything from Elvis to top40.

  • Take requests.

  • Cheessey Music will most likely have to be played.

  • Do not let your own musical taste get in the way. If the bride or groom ask for a song and you have it you should play it and play it with a smile on your face. It is their day and they are paying you.

Couple of songs that never fail for me. (I wont post vids)

  • Sweet Caroline - Neil diamond

  • The twist - Chubby Chequre

  • Megamix - Jive Bunny

  • Don’t Stop Believing - Journey

  • Shout- Lulu

-Footloose - Kenny Loggins

-Twist and shout - The Beetles

  • 80’s music.

  • 90’s dance.

Personally i don’ enjoy doing weddings much but they pay my college bills. I have also gotten many other types of gigs out of weddings such as night clubs ect.

Also if its available to you try and go and watch a dj doing a wedding first and see how they do it. Most weddings are the SAME i.e music selection.

I can see that, but I guess it depends on the crowd.

Even when I used to listen to my funkmaster flex mixes, I used to get annoyed with the fact that he would talk all the time. When I listened to jungle, it was kind of hit or miss whether I wanted to hear the MC jibber jabber…But you’re right, sometimes it helps.

@ tokenasianguy: Great post on page 1 - WIN