# Gridding Live Beats **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 18, 2008, 11:33pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/gridding-live-beats/1346 "2008-11-18T23:33:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![honeypaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/4da419/32.png) [@honeypaw](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/honeypaw)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2008, 11:33pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/gridding-live-beats/1346/1 "2008-11-18T23:33:29Z")
**Gridding Live Beats** I just got Traktor Pro and find its pretty easy to establish beat grids on top of electronic beats. My problem is I haven’t figured out how to grid live drummers. I mostly play old school funk so there’s a lot of complex drum patterns and slight tempo variations (often unintentional) within a single song. Will Traktor work in this context? If so, does anybody have advice on how to lay a grid on live drums? Thanks in advance. ---
**Author:** ![BentoSan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/bentosan/32/15028_2.png) [@BentoSan](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/BentoSan)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 6:15am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/gridding-live-beats/1346/2 "2008-11-19T06:15:59Z")
> [@honeypaw](#): > > I just got Traktor Pro and find its pretty easy to establish beat grids on top of electronic beats. My problem is I haven’t figured out how to grid live drummers. I mostly play old school funk so there’s a lot of complex drum patterns and slight tempo variations (often unintentional) within a single song. Will Traktor work in this context? If so, does anybody have advice on how to lay a grid on live drums? > > Thanks in advance. Idealy you need to run all of your live tracks though Ableton so they are all spot bang on time before importing them into Traktor. Use Ableton in complex warp mode to accomplish this 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![jasonj](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/jasonj/32/14722_2.png) [@jasonj](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/jasonj)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 8:46am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/gridding-live-beats/1346/3 "2008-11-19T08:46:05Z")
I would agree as it is the same technique I use to play on cdjs when i am away from my digital gear. so much more fun being out and not having to not beat match each time. ---
**Author:** ![Foreverhex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/foreverhex/32/12409_2.png) [@Foreverhex](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Foreverhex)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 4:03pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/gridding-live-beats/1346/4 "2008-11-19T16:03:01Z")
I also used Ableton warper to help make remixes. Especially if its not an electronic group. ---
**Author:** ![DvlsAdvct](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/dvlsadvct/32/15020_2.png) [@DvlsAdvct](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/DvlsAdvct)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 4:05pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/gridding-live-beats/1346/5 "2008-11-19T16:05:11Z")
Damnit I need Ableton ---
**Author:** ![B33SON](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/b33son/32/13472_2.png) [@B33SON](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/B33SON)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 10:38pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/gridding-live-beats/1346/6 "2008-11-19T22:38:55Z")
I thought this thread was going to be about setting a beat grid while playing a live track. Oh well. …I always seem to find that I’ve forgotten to save a beat grid on a track I’ve prepared already. I’ve learned not to ever try and set on during a show. ---
**Author:** ![honeypaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/4da419/32.png) [@honeypaw](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/honeypaw)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2008, 9:15pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/gridding-live-beats/1346/7 "2008-11-29T21:15:09Z")
Thanks for the response. My internet was down for a week so I haven’t been able to reply. So it seems like for complex drum patterns it is best to warp my music using Abelton. I don’t like djing in Abelton though and really prefer the layout of Traktor Pro. Djing on turntables and cdjs is just too ingrained in my brain. So I’m wondering, if I warp tracks in Abelton than import my music into Traktor, will Traktor read the beat grids I laid down in Abelton or will I end up with the same problem of not being able to lay down beat grids over complex drum patterns in Traktor? Thanks in advance… ---
**Author:** ![DvlsAdvct](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/dvlsadvct/32/15020_2.png) [@DvlsAdvct](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/DvlsAdvct)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2008, 9:29pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/gridding-live-beats/1346/8 "2008-11-29T21:29:08Z")
If you lay down the warp in Ableton it permanently changes the file. Then you lay down your beatgrid in Traktor and everything should be fine 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![honeypaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/4da419/32.png) [@honeypaw](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/honeypaw)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2008, 12:09am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/gridding-live-beats/1346/9 "2008-12-02T00:09:44Z")
Thanks DvlsAdvct! That’s exactly what I wanted to hear. It looks like I’ll be using this digital gear afterall! ---
**Author:** ![3v4n](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/ecb155/32.png) [@3v4n](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/3v4n)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 3:56pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/gridding-live-beats/1346/10 "2008-12-21T15:56:36Z")
i think you need to render the file first after warping, asd files won’t work with traktor. ---
**Author:** ![BentoSan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/bentosan/32/15028_2.png) [@BentoSan](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/BentoSan)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 4:08pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/gridding-live-beats/1346/11 "2008-12-21T16:08:33Z")
> [@3v4n](#): > > i think you need to render the file first after warping, asd files won’t work with traktor. Yup thats correct