Help solve an argument about speaker quality...

Help solve an argument about speaker quality…

OK I am a single OP that has been DJing on and off for over 3 decades. Now; I own all my own equipment with the exception of a PA system. This is because the PA system you use from one event to the next will be as diverse as the event itself. As an example I would not use the same PA system for a 10 years old’s birthday party with 25 kids as I would at a wedding for 200 people where the music will be top 40 & rock vs a bar gig doing throwback techno & house. I would rather rent the PA system that best matches the event, style of music being played, venue and crowd size.

So here is the question…A friend of mine (who also owns a DJ company) says that people in a crowd (your audience) are not going to be able to tell the difference between a lower end PA system (like Behringer 12" & Horn with a 15" sub and powered with inuke amps) and a higher end system like (Yorkville’s Parasource 12" & horn with a 15" sub both active).

I say that they can tell the difference and even a novice knows when the sound is not clear and clean. What do you all think?

They might not know they know, but they know.

Great sound sounds great whether or not you know it.

X2.
Someone will notice.
As mentioned, if it sounds good, people notice.
If it sounds bad, people notice it even more. Problem with lower end gear is it that it may not be as reliable as the high end stuff through a lot of use, probably to be as expected, and may sound ok at lower levels, but may fail to maintain that quality when pushed.
That’s not to say you need the most expensive stuff. There’s a lot of good gear out there that won’t cost you a kidney..

In most cases, it is easy to build a modular system that will cover 80% of your events. The remaining 20% can be supplemented by renting either in part or a whole system.

Consider a modular system for small(er) events:

2 or 4 tops with a 10" or 12" driver
2 or 4 subs with 15" woofers

That will cover the 25 kid case (two tops), wedding ceremony music (two tops), and the 200 person wedding reception (two tops, two subs), and the bar gig with some EDM (four tops, four subs).

You can get a digital PA manager and save the settings for each setup and recall them with the push of a button. That will simplify your setup time and sound check - when compared to using a “new to you” PA system for every event (which is likely a bit extreme…as I imagine that you rent similar gear from event to event).

If the rent -v- buy decision makes sense depends largely on the details of your business, available storage space, how you move your gear to/from gigs, etc, etc. If you have determined that renting is better for your business, so be it.

Given PA cabinets at similar price points, and a double blind test, run at sensible levels (on “5” and not on “11”)…it would be REALLY hard for the average person to pick out a JBL from a QSC. Add in even modest processing from a digital PA manager, and all bets are off - I doubt their gear designers could tell the difference.

40 years ago, cabinets were designed to be reasonably flat in their response - often at the expense of significant SPL. This was done because the digital signal processing we take for granted today did not exist at any price point. Today, for $300 you can get a digital PA manager with capability that was available in 1985 for $50,000 in 40 rack spaces!!! In practical terms, ALL modern PA systems benefit from EQ, limiters, and crossovers.

That said, one system run at “11” and another run at “5” providing similar SPL in the room…those differences are obvious to all but the most tone def of listeners (which does happen). That is more of an issue with having enough “rig for the gig” as opposed to the quality of any individual components. I rarely run my system past about “7” in order to preserve headroom. If I need more SPL, I double the number of cabinets that I bring.

The issues of total cost of ownership, durability, reliability, value for money, etc tend to drive my decisions about gear. But I am fortunate to be able to purchase gear in the mid-price to high-price points where there are many reasonable choices. At the entry level price points there are a few “OK” choices, but nothing that really stands out.

You do not have to go to Function 1 to get quality PA gear…but if you have the $$,$$$, they do make nice stuff.

QCS, JBL, Mackie, Peavey, Yamaha, EV are all making reasonable gear at their middle and high price points. Even Behringer and American Audio have some mid-price point gear that is good value for money (there is always better gear for more money).

Pyle Pro, Gemini, Alto, Kustom (I’m thinking back to my last trip to Guitar Center) are all focused on the “pro-sumer” and “entry level” price points. There overall value for money offering remains suspect to me.

Thank you all your input. It’s kinda hard to be objective when my personal preferences and bias get in the way. :smiley:

What your friend said is NOT true at all! I’ve worked for a few production companies and the only time I heard someone say something like that was when they were trying to justify cheap equipment purchases.

I’m an audio engineer by trade.

In my experience, when the audio sounds good, no one will notice.

When the audio sounds bad, everyone will notice.