ah stanton, great ideas that never really get off the ground
I knew about the Stanton one and yes it is sad it never got off the ground. Think of the space you’d have with no tone arm you could put some sweet controls on it. I think the dicer is one of the greatest inventions for turntablists, truly lets you do things you couldn’t do on vinyl.
Very true. Best thing I ever did for my back was buy individual cases and sell my coffin…
Nice! The same unit or an upgraded version? My wishlist: USB instead of firewire, and no DaRouter…
do want!!
Exactly the same unit, just relaunched with a different software the same as the SCS3d & SCS1M… The same mappings will be built into the next version though. I usually see these on eBay for $300, the only thing that stopped me pulling the trigger was firewire connections..
Your words reflect your inexperience and lack of respect for the past. Understand that there is easily 3 decades worth of people that came up using turntables. For all of the great technology out there (I love all of it in honesty), they still haven’t captured the feeling and a mechanical match for a turntable. Venture outside of what you see as the world of DJing, and you’ll find it’s a bit bigger than you thought. There is a slew of people out there that still love turntables, and it’s peppered with more who are just discovering them. They all share a common trait in that they find it a bit more fun with a pair of technics. That alone makes DVS anything but stupid.
It’s funny… while we are always up on the next big thing coming out, the crowd still recognizes an actual turntable as the standard. I still can’t believe how many people (club/bar clientele) give me props for using a set of techs. That goes back to the organic sense of it. There’s a “soul” factor to them. It’s silly really, but the fact that patrons who really have no reason to care about the tools you are using, get excited about seeing turntables in use… that speaks to the soul of these things.
Succinct and bang on point
true…even when I (-> got an all digital setup) go to a club and see the DJ using 1200+DVS I get excited. but then again, in 99% cases it turns into “fuck that shit” when I realize the dj spins house/top40 with A->B mixing.
yeah, but he is a “proper” dj
Um Numark V7, or NS7 Just with a smaller platter!!!
It’s true, I have no respect for the past. Even things I like, I always hated reminiscing or looking back on things fondly.
But respectfully, as much as you deride my inexperience and lack of perspective, you are guilty of the exact same thing with your inability to see my point of view. I actually find turntables interesting and am looking to buy a dual 1200 setup as soon as a I can find a pair I am comfortable with buying. So I have nothing against turntables or DVS. But you seem to be too caught up in your own world to see what I am truly trying to say. My comments are neither pro or con turntables or DVS. I understand there is a feel to turntables and even a romantic look to a DJ spinning them. I think what I’m trying to say is a little too nuanced for this crowd or maybe you guys are just too sensitive to be objective. Which isn’t surprising considering the amount of threads claiming that this music, that artist, or this controller is “Killing DJ’ing”
I think you last post you stated the whole DVS thing is stupid, and his reply is a response as why it’s not.
I’ve played on so many set-ups, bought and sold tons of gear and always come back to the enjoyment of playing on 1200’s.
I personally believe DVS will be around until we can no longer obtain quality turntables. I know many DJs who refuse to buy numark or any other brand because of they don’t do the job as well as Technics. BEcause of this, I’ve only ever seen on DJ who wasn’t using Technics, and I go to a DJ caffe, where there’s a different DJ playing every night.
Simulating a DVS with CDJs works great no matter what player you have, and if you just want the ablity to midi map in serato, then that seems like the best choice. Well, thats what i plan to do at least.
Controllerism is great when it works how we want it to. I have a novation twitch, that works with both NI and Serato. But the twitch only has its signature features in Serato. HID is a wonderful thing, but it sucks when you buy a contoller for a specific feature set to only find out that it doesn’t work in the program you wanted it to work in.
Turntables don’t have that problem. Once you have the right box, its guaranteed to work with that program with the same low latency, and high accuracy as any controller that utilizes HID. And any features you don’t get with turntables can be mapped to controllers like the midi fighter and launchpad.
So to wrap up, as long as we can keep buying quality decks, then DVS will still be around. Because there is much less of a programing war going on. Which can be seen through the compatibility issues we have with controllers that require HID for the better features to function properly.
Examples:
The DJ Tech Tools Review of the NS6 with HID scratching in Serato Itch, and compatible with Traktor.
This.
Closest to a TT yet for Traktor…
Agree’d. I picked up a pair this week and have been in heaven! The feel of the 3900s is amazing!
Honestly, if you actually like TT’s, then awesome. Your earlier posts (as illustrated above) somewhat seemed like you had a different stance.
Sobi, once again you are unable to grasp what I was saying because you are too busy defending DVS.
Engineering something to be like something else just because that’s what people are accustomed to is “stupid” from a design standpoint.
Something can be stupid or illogical and still be the norm, or even be good. People do it all the time. The whole country coming to a stop for the Super Bowl, a simple football game, is arguably stupid. But it’s still fun and people enjoy it.
From a design stanpoint, DVS is pretty stupid, you can’t argue that and that doesn’t mean it’s an attack on using DVS or that it’s not fun to use DVS.
Some carpenters like to use old fashioned turn of the century tools for woodworking because they think it’s more fun or has a better feel. That’s fine, but if a power tool company came out with some weird mix of new tools meant to look like and perform like old tools, that would be weird and stupid. Might be interesting, but it seems silly.
Anyway, I’m done giving examples, I think people here are just too caught up in things to see outside their world for a brief second. I see what you are saying, but you are unable to see what I am saying.