# I noticed this in Traktor for beat-matching. **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 7, 2013, 1:30pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/i-noticed-this-in-traktor-for-beat-matching/61921 "2013-11-07T13:30:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![sovvy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d07c76/32.png) [@sovvy](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/sovvy)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 1:30pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/i-noticed-this-in-traktor-for-beat-matching/61921/1 "2013-11-07T13:30:44Z")
**I noticed this in Traktor for beat-matching.** I’ve been practising getting really tight beat-matching and it isn’t hard. I noticed that when cueing another track there is a orange-indicator that moves around a center point, it seems that most (all?) the time when playing on the beat, it should be in the center. I tested this by pressing the sync button and it almost always aligns to the center point. If traktor makes it so easy by having this center point, it makes it real easy. So for guys who are lazy and use sync, practice and train your ear. YMMV🙄 Since matching beats goes quickly when you train your ear and practice, I enjoy spending hours finding tracks that go well together and mixing them beautifully lol. ---
**Author:** ![makar1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/fbc32d/32.png) [@makar1](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/makar1)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 1:44pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/i-noticed-this-in-traktor-for-beat-matching/61921/2 "2013-11-07T13:44:13Z")
How well can you beatmatch without looking at the screen? ---
**Author:** ![system](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/system/32/11_2.png) [@system](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 1:44pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/i-noticed-this-in-traktor-for-beat-matching/61921/3 "2013-11-07T13:44:31Z")
Genius over here. ---
**Author:** ![sarasin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/sarasin/32/12614_2.png) [@sarasin](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/sarasin)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 1:45pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/i-noticed-this-in-traktor-for-beat-matching/61921/4 "2013-11-07T13:45:32Z")
Thanks for that mate. However, I think most of us Traktor users know how the Phase Meter works! 🙂 Read the manual man! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![amadeus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d26b3c/32.png) [@amadeus](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/amadeus)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 1:56pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/i-noticed-this-in-traktor-for-beat-matching/61921/5 "2013-11-07T13:56:03Z")
Brilliant thread haha So watching that and beat matching is training your ears, no. Having the phase meter off and beatmatching is, otherwise you might as well be pressing sync. ---
**Author:** ![Kwal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/kwal/32/14606_2.png) [@Kwal](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Kwal)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 2:16pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/i-noticed-this-in-traktor-for-beat-matching/61921/6 "2013-11-07T14:16:01Z")
I honestly had no idea what the phase meter was until about 4 months into me using Traktor. I don’t see why anyone would depend on it anyways… It tends to be off a lot, but not to the untrained ear of course. ---
**Author:** ![Stewe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/stewe/32/14607_2.png) [@Stewe](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Stewe)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 2:24pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/i-noticed-this-in-traktor-for-beat-matching/61921/7 "2013-11-07T14:24:40Z")
The phase matter comes in handy to indicate the offset but only when your beat grids are super tight. ---
**Author:** ![robdquick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/robdquick/32/12389_2.png) [@robdquick](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/robdquick)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 2:57pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/i-noticed-this-in-traktor-for-beat-matching/61921/8 "2013-11-07T14:57:31Z")
> [@Stewe](#): > > The phase matter comes in handy to indicate the offset but only when your beat grids are super tight. Exactly. If you’re beatgrid isn’t right then the phase meter is going to be of no use at all… ---
**Author:** ![Nick\_V](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/nick_v/32/13560_2.png) [@Nick\_V](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Nick_V)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 3:28pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/i-noticed-this-in-traktor-for-beat-matching/61921/9 "2013-11-07T15:28:25Z")
So are we calling moving the pitch slider until the BPMs on the 2 decks have the same number and then pulling the phase meter to the middle, manual beat matching? Cause if you ever get in front of 2 TTs and an old school scratch mixer you’re gunna be SOL. I’m not being a snob here - I love me some sync button. Just sayin… ---
**Author:** ![Sambo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sambo](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Sambo)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 4:50pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/i-noticed-this-in-traktor-for-beat-matching/61921/10 "2013-11-07T16:50:19Z")
> [@Nick\_V](#): > > So are we calling moving the pitch slider until the BPMs on the 2 decks have the same number and then pulling the phase meter to the middle, manual beat matching? Cause if you ever get in front of 2 TTs and an old school scratch mixer you’re gunna be SOL. I’m not being a snob here - I love me some sync button. Just sayin… This exactly, it’s what grinds my gears about Serato users who trash talk sync, when it’s the exact same thing just consolidated into a button press. ---
**Author:** ![soundinmotiondj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a698b9/32.png) [@soundinmotiondj](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/soundinmotiondj)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 4:58pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/i-noticed-this-in-traktor-for-beat-matching/61921/11 "2013-11-07T16:58:28Z")
> [@Stewe](#): > > The phase matter comes in handy to indicate the offset but only when your beat grids are super tight. +1 Live drummers present a particular challenge. Even if I get a really tight grid over a 8 or 16 beat loop at the beginning of the song…the live drummer will “drift” all over during the remainder of the song. The phase meter can be a useful tool, but it can also lie to you. ---
**Author:** ![amadeus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d26b3c/32.png) [@amadeus](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/amadeus)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 5:00pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/i-noticed-this-in-traktor-for-beat-matching/61921/12 "2013-11-07T17:00:56Z")
> [@soundinmotiondj](#): > > +1 > > Live drummers present a particular challenge. Even if I get a really tight grid over a 8 or 16 beat loop at the beginning of the song…the live drummer will “drift” all over during the remainder of the song. The phase meter can be a useful tool, but it can also lie to you. Yeah live dummers, especially older disco etc can present a challenge, but again you don’t ned to rely on the phase meter to thell you this, just use your ears, and ride the pitch. ---
**Author:** ![soundinmotiondj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a698b9/32.png) [@soundinmotiondj](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/soundinmotiondj)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 5:01pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/i-noticed-this-in-traktor-for-beat-matching/61921/13 "2013-11-07T17:01:02Z")
> [@Nick\_V](#): > > So are we calling moving the pitch slider until the BPMs on the 2 decks have the same number and then pulling the phase meter to the middle, manual beat matching? Cause if you ever get in front of 2 TTs and an old school scratch mixer you’re gunna be SOL. I’m not being a snob here - I love me some sync button. Just sayin… Preparation is NEVER cheating. 🕶 Even old school, there were stickers on the records on the radius of the “1” beat…and every song had BPM recorded for the mix in (and out) point for reference. No one (who actually cared) would come into a live club set with a couple of crates of new (to them) albums and try to thrown a set together on the fly. ---
**Author:** ![Oxhorn19](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ba8739/32.png) [@Oxhorn19](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Oxhorn19)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 5:13pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/i-noticed-this-in-traktor-for-beat-matching/61921/14 "2013-11-07T17:13:14Z")
**orange** wich orange indicator do you mean exactly? ---
**Author:** ![sovvy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d07c76/32.png) [@sovvy](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/sovvy)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 7:37pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/i-noticed-this-in-traktor-for-beat-matching/61921/15 "2013-11-07T19:37:17Z")
> [@makar1](#): > > How well can you beatmatch without looking at the screen? Very well, I don’t look at the screen, I use my ears. ---
**Author:** ![sovvy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d07c76/32.png) [@sovvy](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/sovvy)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 7:38pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/i-noticed-this-in-traktor-for-beat-matching/61921/16 "2013-11-07T19:38:37Z")
> [@amadeus](#): > > Brilliant thread haha > > So watching that and beat matching is training your ears, no. > > Having the phase meter off and beatmatching is, otherwise you might as well be pressing sync. You misunderstood my post completely I said I just noticed that phase-meter thing seems to align in the center most times when the beat-match is correct - and therefore it’s a bit of a cheat for lazy users. ---
**Author:** ![sovvy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d07c76/32.png) [@sovvy](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/sovvy)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 7:39pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/i-noticed-this-in-traktor-for-beat-matching/61921/17 "2013-11-07T19:39:45Z")
> [@Nick\_V](#): > > So are we calling moving the pitch slider until the BPMs on the 2 decks have the same number and then pulling the phase meter to the middle, manual beat matching? Cause if you ever get in front of 2 TTs and an old school scratch mixer you’re gunna be SOL. I’m not being a snob here - I love me some sync button. Just sayin… Another person who misunderstood the post 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Kwal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/kwal/32/14606_2.png) [@Kwal](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Kwal)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 8:20pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/i-noticed-this-in-traktor-for-beat-matching/61921/18 "2013-11-07T20:20:47Z")
> [@sovvy](#): > > Another person who misunderstood the post 🙄 Was a pretty bland post to begin with.. You might as well have started it off with “Dear Diary,” ---
**Author:** ![amadeus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d26b3c/32.png) [@amadeus](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/amadeus)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 9:36pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/i-noticed-this-in-traktor-for-beat-matching/61921/19 "2013-11-07T21:36:56Z")
> [@Kwal](#): > > Was a pretty bland post to begin with.. You might as well as started it off with “Dear Diary,” HAHA brilliant, love it Kwal! ---
**Author:** ![matrick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/matrick/32/13261_2.png) [@matrick](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/matrick)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2013, 2:24pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/i-noticed-this-in-traktor-for-beat-matching/61921/20 "2013-11-08T14:24:00Z")
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