# I'm a New DJ **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [July 20, 2012, 7:50pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/im-a-new-dj/44925 "2012-07-20T19:50:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![bearthecrown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@bearthecrown](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/bearthecrown)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2012, 7:50pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/im-a-new-dj/44925/1 "2012-07-20T19:50:55Z")
**I’m a New DJ** I was looking for some equipment to use for starting out. I had the tractor kontrol s2 but i wanted something with a little higher quality but easy to use…any suggestions. I have no budget 😆 ---
**Author:** ![Fressure](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Fressure](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Fressure)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2012, 7:55pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/im-a-new-dj/44925/2 "2012-07-20T19:55:29Z")
You seriously gave up a Kontrol S2, what. I would have killed to start with a Kontrol S2 ---
**Author:** ![ksandvik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/ksandvik/32/16294_2.png) [@ksandvik](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/ksandvik)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2012, 7:56pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/im-a-new-dj/44925/3 "2012-07-20T19:56:12Z")
S2 is good, learn to use that one. If you can’t master S2, stay away from any other similar pro gear. ---
**Author:** ![bearthecrown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@bearthecrown](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/bearthecrown)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2012, 7:59pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/im-a-new-dj/44925/4 "2012-07-20T19:59:12Z")
lol. someone else told me the same but to me it didn’t feel authentic. I have played with it for a while before i bought my own just ready to challenge myself with new equipment to stay on my toes. if that makes sense. ---
**Author:** ![ksandvik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/ksandvik/32/16294_2.png) [@ksandvik](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/ksandvik)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2012, 8:03pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/im-a-new-dj/44925/5 "2012-07-20T20:03:26Z")
> [@bearthecrown](#): > > lol. someone else told me the same but to me it didn’t feel authentic. I have played with it for a while before i bought my own just ready to challenge myself with new equipment to stay on my toes. if that makes sense. Pioneer CDJ-2000s and corresponding Pioneer mixer. Not that I think anyone with an S2 and learning it inside out could get very creative. Today it’s mostly about a creative mind and less about equipment. ---
**Author:** ![bearthecrown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@bearthecrown](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/bearthecrown)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2012, 8:07pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/im-a-new-dj/44925/6 "2012-07-20T20:07:51Z")
ok ill look into those thanks! I definitely understand…as long as you are dope equipment is not really a factor. ---
**Author:** ![guiltyblade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/guiltyblade/32/14059_2.png) [@guiltyblade](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/guiltyblade)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2012, 8:09pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/im-a-new-dj/44925/7 "2012-07-20T20:09:50Z")
lol. Come on. From an S2 to 2000s. Dude if you don’t know the difference between those two stick with the S2. The gear isn’t limiting you. ---
**Author:** ![verko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/ecccb3/32.png) [@verko](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/verko)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2012, 8:13pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/im-a-new-dj/44925/8 "2012-07-20T20:13:33Z")
> [@guiltyblade](#): > > lol. Come on. From an S2 to 2000s. Dude if you don’t know the difference between those two stick with the S2. The gear isn’t limiting you. lol ^ this. $500 S2 to cdj-2000 $6000+ setup? Prolly not a good idea. I would maybe go with the CDJ-900 and DJM-900 nexus. Still $4k + though ---
**Author:** ![ksandvik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/ksandvik/32/16294_2.png) [@ksandvik](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/ksandvik)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2012, 8:15pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/im-a-new-dj/44925/9 "2012-07-20T20:15:46Z")
I would think that most new DJs should spend hours and hours listening to EDM, learning different styles, chasing for new tracks, learn to mix anything with anything with proper and cool transitions, figure out how to control the audience, what tracks to play at a certain time or event and what not, how to capture the audience, how to finish an evening, stuff like that. This separates the pros from the beginners – any newbie with money could get two CDJ-2000s and a DJM-2000 but if the fundamentals are not there, it’s just a waste of money. I.e. you could do all that with an S2 as the starting point, that equipment is not the limiting factor. PS: I put out the CDJ-2000 as a teaser. If I would get CDJ gear I would get low-end Pio (350 or 400) as the clubs have the high-end gear and no need to waste money on high-end gear just to learn to use Pios. ---
**Author:** ![bearthecrown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@bearthecrown](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/bearthecrown)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2012, 8:21pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/im-a-new-dj/44925/10 "2012-07-20T20:21:04Z")
> [@ksandvik](#): > > I would think that most new DJs should spend hours and hours listening to EDM, learning different styles, chasing for new tracks, learn to mix anything with anything with proper and cool transitions, figure out how to control the audience, what tracks to play at a certain time or event and what not, how to capture the audience, how to finish an evening, stuff like that. This separates the pros from the beginners – any newbie with money could get two CDJ-2000s and a DJM-2000 but if the fundamentals are not there, it’s just a waste of money. > > I.e. you could do all that with an S2 as the starting point, that equipment is not the limiting factor. Great Points! In my opinion I have all those things down. Just looking for an upgrade and getting a general idea of what the next step entails. But I still call myself fresh because there is always more to learn. ---
**Author:** ![ksandvik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/ksandvik/32/16294_2.png) [@ksandvik](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/ksandvik)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2012, 8:52pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/im-a-new-dj/44925/11 "2012-07-20T20:52:43Z")
So what are your goals? If club DJ:ing, knowing Pio gear is important. If creating a new kind of DJ experience, you need to look into Maschine, F1 and various controller/DJ configs around Traktor or Ableton? Something else? Like learning vinyl DJ:ing so you know that side, too? Build you own custom controllers to make it really unique? Learn to produce so you could make your own remixes to separate you from the Beatport top-40 DJs? ---
**Author:** ![kelsey7k](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/kelsey7k/32/14716_2.png) [@kelsey7k](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/kelsey7k)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2012, 10:36pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/im-a-new-dj/44925/12 "2012-07-20T22:36:44Z")
> [@bearthecrown](#): > > In my opinion I have all those things down. _record scratch noise_ _glances at thread title_ imo, those things mentioned are always improvable…and way more important than what gear is used. ---
**Author:** ![MYE](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/mye/32/14381_2.png) [@MYE](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/MYE)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2012, 11:12pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/im-a-new-dj/44925/13 "2012-07-20T23:12:01Z")
wow you gave up your s2 thats probably the most professional 2 channel controller you can buy. The thing you should’ve done is buy a Kontrol F1 and Kontrol x1 and use them with your s2 ---
**Author:** ![deevey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/deevey/32/10758_2.png) [@deevey](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/deevey)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2012, 2:25am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/im-a-new-dj/44925/14 "2012-07-21T02:25:03Z")
[QUOTE]lol. someone else told me the same but to me it didn’t feel authentic. I have played with it for a while before i bought my own just ready to challenge myself with new equipment to stay on my toes. if that makes sense. [/QUOTE] Makes no sense whatsoever unless your goal is to be a jack of all trades master of none or intend going into face to face DJ sales/demo’s. The s2 hasn’t even been around that long so (and no offense intended btw) doubt you could call yourself ready for a new challenge just yet. But if by chance you really are a DJ prodigy of some sort and genuinely feel you have mastered the S2, like the others have said above, get a few CDJ’s and mixer, and go back to basics. Get rid of the safety nets you are used to with software like sync, transpose, and it’ll certainly keep you on your toes for years to come. Either that or get moving onto performing live with Ableton or integrating Ableton / Serato Bridge or even just add a few F1’s to complement your S2 Traktor setup. _- Its **never** the controller thats the limiting factor only the imagination, look at what Girl-Talk does with only his mouse and freeware DAW (theres a video somewhere around here about how he plays live but I can’t find it)._ ---
**Author:** ![bearthecrown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@bearthecrown](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/bearthecrown)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2012, 4:04am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/im-a-new-dj/44925/15 "2012-07-21T04:04:38Z")
> [@deevey](#): > > Makes no sense whatsoever unless your goal is to be a jack of all trades master of none or intend going into face to face DJ sales/demo’s. The s2 hasn’t even been around that long so (and no offense intended btw) doubt you could call yourself ready for a new challenge just yet. > > But if by chance you really are a DJ prodigy of some sort and genuinely feel you have mastered the S2, like the others have said above, get a few CDJ’s and mixer, and go back to basics. Get rid of the safety nets you are used to with software like sync, transpose, and it’ll certainly keep you on your toes for years to come. > > Either that or get moving onto performing live with Ableton or integrating Ableton / Serato Bridge or even just add a few F1’s to complement your S2 Traktor setup. > > _- Its **never** the controller thats the limiting factor only the imagination, look at what Girl-Talk does with only his mouse and freeware DAW (theres a video somewhere around here about how he plays live but I can’t find it)._ very true! I was thinking of also getting a maschine to broaden up my ideas instead and also “attempt” making beats. ---
**Author:** ![bearthecrown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@bearthecrown](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/bearthecrown)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2012, 4:06am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/im-a-new-dj/44925/16 "2012-07-21T04:06:37Z")
> [@kelsey7k](#): > > _record scratch noise_ > _glances at thread title_ > > imo, those things mentioned are always improvable…and way more important than what gear is used. hahaha that cracked me up! ---
**Author:** ![loverocket](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/loverocket/32/11391_2.png) [@loverocket](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/loverocket)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2012, 9:39pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/im-a-new-dj/44925/17 "2012-07-21T21:39:37Z")
> [@bearthecrown](#): > > Great Points! In my opinion I have all those things down. In my opinion, you need to retire since you already mastered DJing. > ---
**Author:** ![loverocket](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/loverocket/32/11391_2.png) [@loverocket](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/loverocket)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2012, 9:40pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/im-a-new-dj/44925/18 "2012-07-21T21:40:50Z")
> [@kelsey7k](#): > > _record scratch noise_ > _glances at thread title_ > > imo, those things mentioned are always improvable…and way more important than what gear is used. like ^ > ---
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**Author:** ![MYE](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/mye/32/14381_2.png) [@MYE](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/MYE)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2012, 8:22am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/im-a-new-dj/44925/20 "2012-07-22T08:22:18Z")
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