Is it me or…
I was just browsing DJForums and was checking out people’s setups. Is it just me or do you guys see cdj-2000’s and a djm-2000 as a huge waste of money?
I used to own CDJ-1000’s and a rane 2016 because there wasn’t much that was really better. Now I have an S4 and can’t justify spending 5000$ on gear that my S4 does for 899$.
Share your thoughts, maybe I’m just getting old and frugal lolz. 
thats my main hangup with getting a set of cdjs/a mixer (especially new)… midi can do everything that those can do and then some – aka the s4 is perfect.
i still think it would be awesome to have a set anyways. but i agree with you ATM it is a huge waste of money compared to other options out there that can do the same thing.
Ive always been into the new cool gear I just think that the S4 is way cooler than the 2000’s at a fraction of the price. I mean 2 - cdj2000’s + 1 - DJM2000 or djm900 = the price of a good used vehicle. Pretty nuts!
Yeah, Pioneer have taken the Apple ethos too far…
dood. i absolutely love mine. if a “traditional setup” was cheaper, i totally woulda gone for that over going fully digital, but as you said. it doesnt make sense financially.
deffinatly when i get some more cash/find a sweet deal ill pick up some second hand. but as for buying brand new? not in the cards until i hit the lotto 
How is a full Pioneer setup not “fully digital”?
it is fully digital, you are right, a cdj is nothing else than a computer and i guess the 2000 does have more power than a cellphone from 2005…
…but he obviously meant with “digital” a solution thats based on a personal computer with a djing software.
but you knew that already 
We all need to be on the same page, here.
CDJ2000s are awesome, but yeh way too much money.
If I were kitting out a booth for a club (which I often do in my imagination, because I am that sad) I’d put in a DJM900 and 2 CDJ2000s, because these days it’s what you expect to find and Digital DJs tend to have their own gear. I would of course leave a load of space for it!
the mixer is analogue
Isn’t it just output that’s analog? I thought all the processing was digital? A&H mixers are all analog.
well… analogue now a days refers to not having a computer involved.
so ignore my last comment.
Actually I think the DJM-2000 is both…It has a digital output as well as analogue.
I saw some guy’s video on youtube and he got a full Pioneer cdj2000 setup and whatnot JUST TO CONTROL TRAKTOR =.= what a waaaasssste
Total douche baggery…People like to show off, he probably had no skillz either.
I think that applies to Serato as well. Itch only works with approved controllers and Itch controllers don’t work in any other program.
Not sure who at Serato made that decision, but it’s a shitload of fail IMO.
That’s not strictly true. The A&H DX can be used with Traktor. It’s harder to get right, though.
Same with the VCI-300
Only by people who don’t know what that word means. They’re the same people that think that input and output stages have anything to do with whether the mixer is analog or digital and that the 2000 is somehow “both” because it has both outputs.
Some of the sh*t I see on this forum makes me want to go back to vinyl.
In answer to one of the earlier questions and/or the OP…why would you buy a DJM2000 and CDJ2000s when a $900 S4 can do the same?
Because it can’t.
It can’t play without a computer, for one thing. And while that doesn’t matter too much to people on DJTT…it does matter in the real world. Laptop DJs are still in the minority…controller-DJs are an even smaller minority…and I’ve never talked to anyone IRL who knew what DJTT was.
This forum has a lot of good information, but it does not reflect reality.
Now, the DJM-2000 is a complete waste of money and a bit of a piece of crap compared to a lot of other mixers. But…the CDJ-2000 is kind of impressive. No other CDJ can do everything it can, and I think they’re worth the money if you have it. The new DJM-900 is a good mixer…it’s just overpriced.
There are a lot that are very very decent, and if you’ve ever used a good mixer…you’ll know how the S4 falls just a bit short in the feel department compared to a lot of them.
It’s hands-down ahead of 95% of the controller market, but it feels a bit toyish compared to even mediocre mixers from a good maker.
As much as I like Traktor, I’m on it mainly because of budget. There are a few capabilities I actually like, but the more I go out and listen to other DJs and stay off the internet, the more I realize that they don’t matter in real life and that just about everything I want to do, I can do with 3 CDJ-2000s and a mixer. Sample decks might make that claim harder, and I’m not convinced that anything below the 2000 is worth paying for (I really like album art…and doing that with anything else would get really expensive).
So, yeah…the DJM-2000 looks like an “I have too much money” sign, but people complaining that 2000s look like someone spent too much money just look jealous that they couldn’t.
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