# Jog wheel maintenance (+LED replacement)

**URL:** <https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/jog-wheel-maintenance-led-replacement/14784>\
**Category:** DJ TechTools' VCI-100 Product Support\
**Created:** [October 9, 2010, 1:42pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/jog-wheel-maintenance-led-replacement/14784 "2010-10-09T13:42:09Z")\
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**Author:** ![mistertuckshop](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/mistertuckshop/32/16217_2.png) [@mistertuckshop](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/mistertuckshop)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2010, 1:42pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/jog-wheel-maintenance-led-replacement/14784/1 "2010-10-09T13:42:09Z")

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**Jog wheel maintenance (+LED replacement)**

So I just bought a vci-100 second hand (cheers, Jack Clark 🙂) and I think it need a little bit of maintenance.

Here’s a youtube video of the jog wheels  
https://www.youtube.com/embed/40N-E1QH5EU?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque  
The left jog wheel works fine, but the right one only seems to pick up when it’s rotating about half of the time - it’s not the touch sensitivity because the LED stays red. I know there was a video recently about repairing the jog wheels, but is there anything specific I should be looking for if I open it up?

Also I’d quite like to replace the LED for the right headphone cue button, it doesn’t work. Any ideas where I can buy a replacement LED in the UK, and brief instructions on how to replace it?

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**Author:** ![photojojo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/photojojo/32/14618_2.png) [@photojojo](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/photojojo)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2010, 1:51pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/jog-wheel-maintenance-led-replacement/14784/2 "2010-10-09T13:51:10Z")

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Have you checked the sensitivity on the back of the VCI? Even though the red LED comes on it could be the software needs a little more to work well. Be careful as those little plastic screws are fragile.

You might need to lube the finger that contacts the post of the jog wheel inside the unit. I cover that here.

> **[How to Fix Glitchy Faders and Jog Wheels](https://djtechtools.com/2010/08/10/vci-100-how-to-fix-faders-jog-wheel/)**
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> http://www.youtube.com/v/n4DMniKwrB8& A pretty common question I see on the DJ TechTools forum is about channel faders that are acting up,

LED’s (check the blog post he linked in there to)

> **[Replacing LEDs on your VCI-100 - is it worth it?](https://forum.djtechtools.com/showthread.php?t=18867)**
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> I had to replace some of the LEDs on my VCI-100 after a couple of the blue ones stopped working for no apparent reason (both headphone cues, both syncs, sampler) and this got me thinking about replacing the stock green ones that are virtually...

I’m thinking there’s something else, but I can’t jog (pun intended 🙂 ) my memory right now.

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**Author:** ![mistertuckshop](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/mistertuckshop/32/16217_2.png) [@mistertuckshop](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/mistertuckshop)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2010, 2:47pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/jog-wheel-maintenance-led-replacement/14784/3 "2010-10-09T14:47:39Z")

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Tried adjusting the sensitivity - even with it all the way up (so the red LED is still on even when I’m not touching the wheel) it still doesn’t work right. Moving the jog wheel smoothly round only works for about half a rotation.

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**Author:** ![fullenglishpint](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/fullenglishpint/32/12539_2.png) [@fullenglishpint](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/fullenglishpint)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2010, 2:54pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/jog-wheel-maintenance-led-replacement/14784/4 "2010-10-09T14:54:40Z")

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When it comes to LEDs I’ve done that mod (check my post 'jojo linked to) so I’m happy to give any advice you need. I used these LEDs from Maplin and they’re pretty much identical to the originals. A lot of people seem to be having the cue LED problem, I guess vestax had a bad batch.

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**Author:** ![photojojo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/photojojo/32/14618_2.png) [@photojojo](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/photojojo)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2010, 2:56pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/jog-wheel-maintenance-led-replacement/14784/5 "2010-10-09T14:56:47Z")

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Has the sensitivity changed in the mapping? Have you updated recently or anything? Was it ever working for you or was it like this wen you got it? Since it is second hand it might be worth it to go ahead and do the fader maintenance on it anyway.

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**Author:** ![mistertuckshop](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/mistertuckshop/32/16217_2.png) [@mistertuckshop](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/mistertuckshop)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2010, 3:26pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/jog-wheel-maintenance-led-replacement/14784/6 "2010-10-09T15:26:07Z")

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> [@photojojo](#):
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> Has the sensitivity changed in the mapping? Have you updated recently or anything? Was it ever working for you or was it like this wen you got it? Since it is second hand it might be worth it to go ahead and do the fader maintenance on it anyway.

I only got it yesterday - using the latest mapping downloaded straight from DJTT.

edit: oh and cheers for the LED link, ordered 🙂

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**Author:** ![photojojo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/photojojo/32/14618_2.png) [@photojojo](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/photojojo)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2010, 7:48pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/jog-wheel-maintenance-led-replacement/14784/7 "2010-10-09T19:48:31Z")

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Did you use the big import button to load the tsi? Sometimes it takes importing a couple of time restarting Traktor between each import to get it fully loaded. If that doesn;t work I would lubricate the finger that touches the jog post.

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**Author:** ![mistertuckshop](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/mistertuckshop/32/16217_2.png) [@mistertuckshop](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/mistertuckshop)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 8:26pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/jog-wheel-maintenance-led-replacement/14784/8 "2010-10-10T20:26:48Z")

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> [@photojojo](#):
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> Did you use the big import button to load the tsi? Sometimes it takes importing a couple of time restarting Traktor between each import to get it fully loaded. If that doesn;t work I would lubricate the finger that touches the jog post.

Yep, used the big import button.  
Just to clarify, by the way, the wheel itself rotates fine, not stiff or anything, it just doesn’t seem to pick up when it’s spinning a lot of the time.

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**Author:** ![gingerman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/47e85d/32.png) [@gingerman](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/gingerman)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 8:34am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/jog-wheel-maintenance-led-replacement/14784/9 "2010-10-12T08:34:51Z")

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Im getting the same jog wheel problem too 😞

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**Author:** ![dnbaddict](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a698b9/32.png) [@dnbaddict](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/dnbaddict)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 8:51pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/jog-wheel-maintenance-led-replacement/14784/10 "2010-10-14T20:51:22Z")

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Strange..same thing here: since the update to FW1.4, my right jog wheel has exactly the same problems as described above and shown in the video.

Could it be that the fourfold resolution of 1.4 multiplies the detrimental effects of small amounts of dirt/dust? Or would it rather be a software/mapping issue?

But then again: the left wheel works perfectly.

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**Author:** ![gingerman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/47e85d/32.png) [@gingerman](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/gingerman)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 8:49am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/jog-wheel-maintenance-led-replacement/14784/11 "2010-10-15T08:49:43Z")

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Yeah mine was fine before updating to 1.4 firmware, and now the right jog plays up but the left is fine still. I have tried reverting to 3.5.2 mapping but the problem remains.

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**Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 12:53pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/jog-wheel-maintenance-led-replacement/14784/12 "2010-10-18T12:53:31Z")

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Did anyone solve this problem (right wheel becomes unresponsive/jittery for scratching after upgrading to FW1.4) yet? Did physical jog wheel maintenance/lubricating the ground finger lead to any successes on this?

I still have the feeling that this is a software/mapping issue…also: when the deck is playing, scratching works far worse than when the decks are in stop or pause mode.

All opinions on this are more than welcome!

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**Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 6:09pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/jog-wheel-maintenance-led-replacement/14784/13 "2010-10-18T18:09:40Z")

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^^^ im sure this is a mapping issue, as i have upgraded my vci to 1.4, and using my own personal mapping, am having no problems with the right jog wheel compared to the left. hope this helps…

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**Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 2:05am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/jog-wheel-maintenance-led-replacement/14784/14 "2010-10-20T02:05:27Z")

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This really sounds like a mapping issue, but I have no clue what it is. Has everybody loaded the mapping twice using the big import button restarting Traktor each time? Does the jog act different when you turn scratch on and off? Does it work properly in fader FX mode? Does pitch bend work correctly?

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**Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 8:51am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/jog-wheel-maintenance-led-replacement/14784/15 "2010-10-20T08:51:07Z")

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I loaded the mapping twice using the big import button and restarted Traktor (twice) each time. I will look into the last 3 questions (Scratch, faderFX, pitch bend) tonight and post my results. This is SOOO annoying! I paid a lot of money for this and it dont work properly 😞

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**Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 10:30am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/jog-wheel-maintenance-led-replacement/14784/16 "2010-10-20T10:30:52Z")

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Haven’t actually got round to opening up my vci-100 yet, been busy. Thought I should mention that I’m actually still on 1.3 firmware, FWIW.

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**Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 11:49am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/jog-wheel-maintenance-led-replacement/14784/17 "2010-10-20T11:49:20Z")

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Another thing to try would be to delete any VCI mappings you have in there before importing. Not sure if this would help or not, but it’s worth a try. Maybe try the basic mapping that comes with traktor Is everybody on 1.2.6?

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**Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 2:01pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/jog-wheel-maintenance-led-replacement/14784/18 "2010-10-20T14:01:50Z")

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Ok, so having done some testing with the default vci-100 mapping:

When scrolling through the track with the top of the jog wheel (“jogseek” on default overlay not lit), it works fine. When scratching (“jogseek” lit up) it is jittery. When using the outside of the jog wheel in either case, it works fine.

1.3 firmware, mapping downloaded from here:  
[http://help.vestax.co.jp/en/detail.php?id=80&id\_page\_url=56](http://help.vestax.co.jp/en/detail.php?id=80&id_page_url=56)

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**Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 2:06pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/jog-wheel-maintenance-led-replacement/14784/19 "2010-10-20T14:06:15Z")

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> [@mistertuckshop](#):
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> Ok, so having done some testing with the default vci-100 mapping:
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> When scrolling through the track with the top of the jog wheel (“jogseek” on default overlay not lit), it works fine. When scratching (“jogseek” lit up) it is jittery. When using the outside of the jog wheel in either case, it works fine.
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> 1.3 firmware, mapping downloaded from here:  
> [http://help.vestax.co.jp/en/detail.php?id=80&id\_page\_url=56](http://help.vestax.co.jp/en/detail.php?id=80&id_page_url=56)

Does the DJTT mapping give you the same results?

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**Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 2:15pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/jog-wheel-maintenance-led-replacement/14784/20 "2010-10-20T14:15:57Z")

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Yes, just tried it. Same results. The problem only occurs when scratch is turned on.

(the vestax mapping is slightly different because I think they use seek position so it doesn’t ‘scratch’ through the track as such, just scrolls quickly, but I don’t think that’s really relevant, the glitch still occurs when scratch button is turned on)

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