Kanye West “Blood on the leaves” uses same samples and sequence from Dj Craze Z2 set.
Dj Craze Z2 set
skip to 0:55
Kanye West - Blood on the leaves
skip to 2:50
WOW
any thoughts on the matter?
actually he sampled this:
the internet says it was cleared, along with i’m sure everything kanye west samples. when you’re that big you generally get permission since that will be cheaper than lawsuits.
Will he is not.
Check the production credits on the track. Hudmo and Lunice both worked with him to produce that track. If you don’t know, they are the duo who make up “TNGHT”
How is sampling in HIP HOP surprising? Especially in Kanye’s productions, he’s one of the reasons it’s still alive.
Wooooaaahhh therrrrreeee… 
On topic, I’m not sure what the issue is here? Sampling is de facto in popular music, and has been for a few decades now.
Ima let you finish…
Actually I they all sampled this, which Kanye references in the song.
“Before you tried to destroy us
How you gon’ lie to the lawyer?
It’s like I don’t even know ya
I gotta bring it back to the 'nolia”
Nolia referencing the south which C-Murder and No Limit Records are from.
I’m talking about rap, not music in general. When he started blowing up, sampling had become quite rare.
Really? Or do you mean obvious sampling has become quite rare.
He credited them as writers on the tune. As he did with Daft Punk, Gesaffelstein and others.
He is the reason the ‘he’ is still alive. He has nothing at all to do with hip hop being “alive”. He is as Top40 as The Spice Girls.
The prick doesn’t even register on my Hip Hop radar.
Jus my 2 beans
To be fair the latest album is pretty radio unfriendly, I can’t really imagine a single on the album. Not really a Top 40 album like say Jay Z’s latest one..
I think he meant the heavy sampling that has become so prominent in music today, not hip hop itself. And Kanye, although a narcissistic prick, definitely contributed heavily to the sampling movement that brought hip hop to its current state.
Craze’s set was def directly sampled from that trap song, but I wanna say Swizz Beatz put out a song with that same instrumental like 10 years ago (could be wrong)…and he prob sampled that from somewhere too
The TNGHT track samples a few tracks, those sampled horns are clearly sampled, for example, and the vocal hook comes from Julie McKnight’s Home.
Mods need to lock this thread because it literally has no purpose or direction, it’s just going to spawn a pissing competition over who knows the first sample to hit the Top 40’s or the earliest recorded use of sampling (Which someone told me was the Beatles, unbelievably.)
Facts.
- Kanye straight up bought the rights to the song from TNGHT, thats why they played it at alot of their live shows but never released it.
- Craze used to tour with Kanye, I highly doubt he would sue him, not like Kanye needs the money.
Precisely.
Also, Kanye being “top40” is one of the most ridiculous statements I’ve read on this forum. He may not be the best rapper ever (quite far away from it), but as a producer (remember The Blueprint?) and an ARTIST he’s one of the most important people in the hip hop scene in the past 15ish years.
I’m not going to deny Kanye’s greatness and contribution to hip-hop BUT it sounds to me like forum members making these claims must not have been around hip hop in its prime. It is NOTHING like it used to be. There is nothing released today by Kanye or anyone else you can label as a “classic”…
Have we forgotten all the original producers who only had 4-track beat machines? And what about before that?.. Someone needs a history lesson on hip hop. That’s for sure.
Church.
FUCKIN’ CHUUUUUURCH!!!
Maybe the fact that you can’t call it a classic is because it’s new and that’s not really in the definition?
Of course we remember older producers (Premo is still my favourite), but you can’t just write off everything that’s been released in the last 15 years. Sure, things have changed, but this doesn’t make it worse. There were a lot of talented rappers and producers 20 years ago, there are a lot of talented rappers and producers now. What’s your definition of a prime anyway?