# Kontrol X1 or new Kontrol X? **URL:** \ **Category:** Hardware: Controllers, Mods and Gear\ **Created:** [January 18, 2012, 4:28pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/kontrol-x1-or-new-kontrol-x/36362 "2012-01-18T16:28:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![dylanmc111](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@dylanmc111](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/dylanmc111)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 4:28pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/kontrol-x1-or-new-kontrol-x/36362/1 "2012-01-18T16:28:07Z")
**Kontrol X1 or new Kontrol X?** Dilemma for myself, to wait and buy the new Kontrol X? or to buy the X1? since we have no info yet on the new Kontrol X? (price etc) I wonder will the X1 come down in price when the new controller comes out! what would u guys do? ---
**Author:** ![Otacon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/otacon/32/12608_2.png) [@Otacon](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Otacon)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 4:41pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/kontrol-x1-or-new-kontrol-x/36362/2 "2012-01-18T16:41:42Z")
wait and scope out your chances, the new controller might be exactly what you need or it could be completely useless to you. Im guessing the price will drop so either way waiting is a win win ---
**Author:** ![mrkleen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@mrkleen](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/mrkleen)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 8:09pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/kontrol-x1-or-new-kontrol-x/36362/3 "2012-01-18T20:09:44Z")
Too early to tell, but they look like completely different controllers for completely different applications. New controller looks to be for a modified bridge to Ableton program - kind of like what SSL has. If you want to control loops and efx -looks like the X1 is still your choice. ---
**Author:** ![kooper1980](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/kooper1980/32/13044_2.png) [@kooper1980](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/kooper1980)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 8:42pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/kontrol-x1-or-new-kontrol-x/36362/4 "2012-01-18T20:42:14Z")
Wait! Wait because you know nothing about the new controller and wait because the price of x1 may come down. ---
**Author:** ![mrkleen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@mrkleen](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/mrkleen)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 8:43pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/kontrol-x1-or-new-kontrol-x/36362/5 "2012-01-18T20:43:55Z")
Did you WATCH the video and see the clips being triggered? Apparently NOT ---
**Author:** ![padi\_04](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/padi_04/32/56291_2.png) [@padi\_04](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/padi_04)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 8:46pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/kontrol-x1-or-new-kontrol-x/36362/6 "2012-01-18T20:46:43Z")
Depends on your needs, the X1 does a better job on it’s original purpose. New one isn’t meant to replace it, else it wouldn’t be part of the video. The X1 current price is already a bargain for what it is. ---
**Author:** ![kooper1980](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/kooper1980/32/13044_2.png) [@kooper1980](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/kooper1980)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 8:53pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/kontrol-x1-or-new-kontrol-x/36362/7 "2012-01-18T20:53:38Z")
> [@mrkleen](#): > > Too early to tell, but they look like completely different controllers for completely different applications. > > New controller looks to be for a modified bridge to Ableton program - kind of like what SSL has. > > If you want to control loops and efx -looks like the X1 is still your choice. What video have you seen that shows it as an Ableton bridge?? Only vid I’ve seen purely shows it triggering sample slots in Traktor. ---
**Author:** ![padi\_04](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/padi_04/32/56291_2.png) [@padi\_04](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/padi_04)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 8:56pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/kontrol-x1-or-new-kontrol-x/36362/8 "2012-01-18T20:56:11Z")
+1 If they can make it internal, why go for a collab? ---
**Author:** ![zestoi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/zestoi/32/13946_2.png) [@zestoi](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/zestoi)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 10:41pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/kontrol-x1-or-new-kontrol-x/36362/9 "2012-01-18T22:41:41Z")
def wait… the new controller is very different to the X1 plus the K2 is due out any time now which might be the best of both worlds… (apart from the gorgeous rgb led pads on this new one ofc 😛 ) ---
**Author:** ![Jester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/jester/32/12996_2.png) [@Jester](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Jester)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2012, 4:06am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/kontrol-x1-or-new-kontrol-x/36362/10 "2012-01-19T04:06:46Z")
get two x1’s and the k2. ---
**Author:** ![NathanWard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/nathanward/32/14086_2.png) [@NathanWard](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/NathanWard)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2012, 7:10am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/kontrol-x1-or-new-kontrol-x/36362/11 "2012-01-19T07:10:55Z")
> [@](#): > > get two x1’s and the k2. Genius. 4 deck internal mixing, only need an Audio 2. ---
**Author:** ![Jester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/jester/32/12996_2.png) [@Jester](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Jester)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2012, 8:32am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/kontrol-x1-or-new-kontrol-x/36362/12 "2012-01-19T08:32:38Z")
Jansen are the authorised A&H dealers here. Retail on the K2 is $499 NZ with free shipping. ---
**Author:** ![photojojo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/photojojo/32/14618_2.png) [@photojojo](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/photojojo)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2012, 12:33pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/kontrol-x1-or-new-kontrol-x/36362/13 "2012-01-19T12:33:24Z")
The new NI controller looks to be dedicated to sample decks. The video shows two on the new controllers and an X1 to be used for transport duties. If you don’t use the sample decks, I don’t think you would get much use out of the new controller. ---
**Author:** ![mrkleen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@mrkleen](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/mrkleen)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2012, 5:27pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/kontrol-x1-or-new-kontrol-x/36362/14 "2012-01-25T17:27:53Z")
> [@kooper1980](#): > > What video have you seen that shows it as an Ableton bridge?? Only vid I’ve seen purely shows it triggering sample slots in Traktor. You mean like this screen shot from THIS very site. ---
**Author:** ![0.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/0/a6a055/32.png) [@0.0](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/0.0)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2012, 8:10pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/kontrol-x1-or-new-kontrol-x/36362/15 "2012-01-25T20:10:52Z")
> [@mrkleen](#): > > You mean like this screen shot from THIS very site. Those are the new sample decks from the Traktor 2.5 release, color coded to match the grid on the F1. Nothing in that screenshot indicates Ableton integration. ---
**Author:** ![mrkleen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@mrkleen](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/mrkleen)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2012, 8:15pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/kontrol-x1-or-new-kontrol-x/36362/16 "2012-01-25T20:15:08Z")
> [@0.0](#): > > Those are the new sample decks from the Traktor 2.5 release, color coded to match the grid on the F1. Nothing in that screenshot indicates Ableton integration. We shall see. It would be really stupid for NI to expect all of their users who already incorporate Ableton and Traktor - to have to rework all of their sounds and samples into a new traktor - without ability to simply link to Ableton. ---
**Author:** ![kooper1980](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/kooper1980/32/13044_2.png) [@kooper1980](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/kooper1980)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2012, 8:25pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/kontrol-x1-or-new-kontrol-x/36362/17 "2012-01-25T20:25:52Z")
Listen… Please stop wasting your time anticipating an Ableton bridge. It just won’t happen!!! Like I said all that shows is the new sample deck options. Has chuff all to do with Ableton! Have you not seen the new NI video where they talk about Traktor 2.5? I suggest you watch it. Then come back here. ---
**Author:** ![mrkleen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@mrkleen](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/mrkleen)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2012, 8:27pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/kontrol-x1-or-new-kontrol-x/36362/18 "2012-01-25T20:27:21Z")
> [@kooper1980](#): > > Listen… Please stop wasting your time anticipating an Ableton bridge. It just won’t happen!!! Like I said all that shows is the new sample deck options. Has chuff all to do with Ableton! Have you not seen the new NI video where they talk about Traktor 2.5? I suggest you watch it. Then come back here. Yup…watched it. The performer was triggering clips. Sound familiar? ---
**Author:** ![kooper1980](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/kooper1980/32/13044_2.png) [@kooper1980](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/kooper1980)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2012, 8:27pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/kontrol-x1-or-new-kontrol-x/36362/19 "2012-01-25T20:27:42Z")
And why would it be silly if NI didn’t make it easier for people who choose to route their audio through another companies software?! NI and Ableton are completely separate companies. ---
**Author:** ![kooper1980](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/kooper1980/32/13044_2.png) [@kooper1980](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/kooper1980)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2012, 8:28pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/kontrol-x1-or-new-kontrol-x/36362/20 "2012-01-25T20:28:25Z")
Yeah triggering clips with sample decks not Ableton! [Next page](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/kontrol-x1-or-new-kontrol-x/36362.md?page=2)