Sorry Faderswagger but that’s redefining what beatmatching is. I would bet that 99% of djs would say that beatmatching is what you call tempomatching.
Besides which it’s an easy to learn skill that makes you a considerably more flexible dj, so why not learn it?
Oh i know. I’m not trying to start new lingo, it’s just the terminology I always use to describe it.
But oh yes, totally! Everyone should learn to beatmatch without BPM readouts. It’s a great skill to have, I’m just saying that for this guy to spin on CDJs this weekend, he doesn’t need it.
Me too! I don’t ever mean that as a figure of speech when i say it, I think it’s literally true. I would love to get funding for a research project on this, I really think monkeys could easily be taught to beatmatch if you set the tempo for them.
Yup. That way you are damn accurate. You don’t leave it up to the cdj to figure it out. It uploads waveforms and everything. Its pretty much the laptop on the cdj 2000 screen.
Its def not hard, its just a matter of whether he actually knows how to beat match or not. If he does, then yeah 2 hours of practice on cdjs is fine.
If not you are not going to learn or hear the difference of to beat doubling very easily, not right away. It takes a little bit of ear training to get the fine differences. Plus knowing which way to actually fix the track with the jog.
Its easy after you learn how to do it. Its just the learning part will take some time to perfect.
Are you retarded? or just a troll?
Lawl, maybe what we do is that hard for you… But to me it’s easy enough that I’m pretty sure a monkey could hit a button on time and then move a jogwheel to fix it.
…and you concluded this from your years or extensive research on the capabilities of a monkey.
C’mon man!
I’ve seen plenty of very smart people put headphones on after I’ve cued it for them and seen the looks on their faces of absolute bewilderment at what’s happening in trying to listen to two different things and analyze which one is going faster or slower. Then, once they think they’ve got it cued properly and tempo synced, start to bring the new track in only to hear the dreaded double count of a trainwreak. I know you’re being facetious, but it does take practice to do it with only your ears, and no other visual aid or help. It’s definitely a skill set that’s for sure, as someone above said.
I guess when you have to learn to beatmatch on two 1200’s with disco vinyl and a rotary mixer, you appreciate the discipline.
My bad - I got confused on your response. I thought you were mocking me…
Oh well why didn’t you say so. In that case I’ll start bowing at your feet right now.
no bowing, just respect beatmatching. Or else the Train Wreck Gods will visit your beat grid.
lawl, I have no respect for beatmatching with BPM readers at all, and I don’t trainwreck with or without sync.
You should probably find a rocking chair and discuss “the old times” with the other old jaded DJs, becasue nobody else is going to care.
May an unknown vinyl rip drift on you next gig.
I have great respect for turntableist’s, and you need a lot of practice before you can temposync with your ears(if you want to do it faster than 15 Min 
). I bought some tables myself and i know it’s not easy and i really don’t want to insult anyone so i’m just gonna quote discovery. Again i am not looking for a digital-turntable fight and that an animal can be trained to do this is just really intresting to me and doesn’t mean it’s easy.
[QUOTE]Animal Drummers
Fish can’t drum, but over the past three decades, researchers have discovered that numerous other animals, including palm cockatoos, woodpeckers and kangaroo rats all know how to tap a beat.[/QUOTE]
http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2006/11/13/animalmusic_ani.html?category=animals&guid=20061113141500
Hey guys, so i had the gig yesterday! wanted to tell you how it went and what i learned.
So i was using CDJ 2000 with my laptop with traktor. I hooked up both CDJs through a USB cable and everything would have been perfect if both of them weren’t going through the same channel. And i could NOT figure out in the traktor settings (i tried literary everything) how to have sound coming out through different channels. tried switching cables, everything! Good thing i had a USB with music, so i had one CDJ on traktor and one CDJ with USB. (i used rekordbox, but i must have fucked up and i didnt get any waveforms on the display). So i just loaded the song i was gonna play on USB on a spare deck in traktor for reference.
I think everything went well and im most likely be playing next week again. Things i learned:
Thats all. gotta get back to learning
cheers
I don’t have CDJ’s, but my understanding is if you try to connect them to each other you are supposed to use a hub, or in the alternative using their LINK cables. Perhaps that’s why you were only getting sound out of one channel - or maybe your traktor audio settings were not set properly. Were you using an Audio 6/8/10 soundcard, or was it a “traktor certified mixer” that you were plugged into?
I’m assuming that you could have just used the USB alone so long as the CDJ’s were properly linked with each other and not concerned yourself with the computer at all - the waveform is displayed on the CDJ 2000 screen, so that tells you when the breaks are - when you load the track it will analyze it right there on the fly, or at least, it should. And if it doesn’t, the fall back position (and truthfully, should be the first thing you do) is know your tracks that you are playing well enough. I mean, if you know the song, you are going to know when the break(s) drop, and how long they are and generally at what point you need to start mixing out of the song. At least, that’s the goal in my opinion.
Re beatmatching, if you were having trouble with it you should then really try to practice on your S4 without actually looking at the computer screen at all - the only way you are going to train your ears is if you are forced to rely only on them. Turn your monitor off (or dim if a laptop) if you have to. If you are constantly looking at the readout to tell you that its 124.27 bpm and then you match the exact tempo with the other deck to the same speed, you haven’t really learned to rely on your ears to tell you when one is faster than the other. Sure it works to just look at the screen, but it will help you a ton in the long run to just work on getting your ears used to doing all the work, and things will get a lot easier once you have the skill down to fall back on in case things get haywire. Also, in my experience with traktor the beatgrids are often off, sometimes by a little bit, and other times it’s a complete shit show - when that happens you can’t rely even on the screen because once the grids off, everything is off - so you are going to be forced to rely only on your ears so its best to have the skill down.
How big was the venue? Did you get positive feedback? Congrats btw.
#1 there you go faderswagger ^^^^
#2 now you know why it’s important to learn the CDJ2000’s and why club owners want it uniform.
Damn I’m good. I did say “don’t look at the BPM”
One thing nobody has mentioned, if you’re a Traktor user, turn off the phase meter. This will also teach you to rely on your ears instead of your eyes.