So I use my F1 and remix decks in deck C with my external mixer (Xone 92). I also have an X1 for controlling decks A & B. How can I cue one of the sample cells if the one of the others is already playing? My Audio 8 is routed like this. Deck A into Channel 1 - Deck B into Channel 2 - Remix Deck C into Channel 3. I am using the Deck D inputs (7/8) on the audio 8 to record my sets.
So if in Deck C I already have some sample playing and I want to preview one of the other cells where can I route the preview? I know there is the monitor option on the F1, but that needs to come out somewhere… so where? I don’t mind changing how I have my recording set up if I have to free up that other in/out on the audio 8.
I haven’t got my stuff set up atm so I can’t check, but I believe the cue’ing works with the volume of the samples, and not just the volume of the channel.
So, say, you’ve got a nice beat going on in the first column of samples, you can turn the sample volume of the second row down to zero, enable the monitor button and cue what synth you’re throwing on it. This all happens independently of channel or routing settings.
hmmm. I don’t understand what you are saying… I think you may not fully understand my question… or maybe I am just not gtting what you are saying.
How can I hear what I am cueing? The volume on channel 3 of my external mixer needs to be up for the sounds of the sample deck C to be coming out of the main system. If I don’t have one of the columns in the sample deck playing I want to cue that sample and leave the others playing, I don’t want to turn them down I want to just bring in another sample, but I want to cue it first and make sure it sounds right. I would think i need a separate channel for cueing…
I’m sorry, I somehow overlooked the fact that what I said only works when mixing internally, and has no use for you.
No clue how you can get this to work with an external mixer..
Couldn’t I just use Deck D I/O for the preview channel? I realize I would have to not use that deck for recording my set then… but I could use audacity to record the set…
Yes, I had a channel for the preview features in traktor but the sound was way to loud and distorted even though all eq and gain was right down because when in external mixing mode the volume control for the preview player was disabled and on max. Not sure if it has changed in the 2.5 update. Restrained from upgrading due to previous problems with big updates.
So maybe dedicating a deck for it in traktor? Losing one deck though hmmm
I’ve used Deck D for the preview player in the past so I would think that it would work for cue as well. I can’t test it right now and I’ve only had one cup of coffee, but can’t you turn the cue off on all the other cells and just get that cell you want to hear the same way you cue a deck now? As far as recording I would get a digital recorder before I relied on Audacity to record sets.
EDIT: Aggregating an Audio 2 with the Audio 8 is another option.
So say with a four channel sound card with audio 8 and 4 channel mixer, have decks a/b for ch 1 and 2, the loop recorder out put routed with remix decks onto 3 and ch 4 for preview.?
I have, I am using the F1 with it… It seems to be almost 99% stable for me. Only issue I have had was a delay every once and a while when I scroll through the trees. Nothing too major. Please let me know your results tonight. I am thinking of picking up a digital recorder and just using one of the decks for the cueing. I don’t use the 4th deck right now anyways, so I won’t be missing anything.
hi sorry to get back so late, have to finish off a paper for uni i’m struggling with. I’m gonna wait for the next traktor update before getting an F1 with version 2.5+
still running v2.1.1 as find that the most stable for me.
what I ended up doing was routing the loop recorder with the sample/remix decks to one channel on my mixer. the fouth channel on my mixer I used for the preview player to hear what samples or songs to play next. Decks A/B both had there own channels. I was still able to record in traktor to.
audio 8 settings audio out
deck A ch 1/2
deck B ch 3/4
deck C ch 5/6
deck D ch 5/6
fx return (loop recorder) ch 5/6
preview payer output ch 7/8
audio 8 input settings
recording input on ch 7/8
fx input on ch 5/6 (aux out from mixer into there for loop recorder)
hope it makes sense. You will just have to load the samples into the preview player to hear them first instead of cueing.
I guess that’s a big benefit of internal mixing in traktor, being able to cue samples easily. Still not enough to make me give up my xone 62.
If anybody else got a different way, would be cool to see.
I wish NI would address this. Having a shiny new F1 where I can’t monitor the slots when mixing externally is a HUGE pain. I am thinking that they could just route the internal monitor bus to the same bus as the preview player. Or alternatively, add another output routing option like “Internal Monitor Output” or “Remix Deck Monitor Output” to the external mixing audio routing.
I spoke with Mike (DJ Endo) over the weekend… He said there is no way right now to cue tracks in external mode. Best option is to color code the samples and go from there… This is somethinng he will be addressing with the engineers as something on the wishlist for upcoming updates…
I would guess this will get resolved soon enough. Seems pretty important.
I don’t mind changing how I have my recording set up if I have to free up that other in/out on the audio 8.