Music Flow of a Gig set

Music Flow of a Gig set

So I was driving home from classes today, and thinking about what the optimal “music flow” (for lack of a better description) would be at a club gig. Some of the “etiquette” that ean mentioned in his blog a while back comes to mind, but I was wondering what your guys’ basic set list “flow” worked for you.

What I mean is, when you first begin your set (assuming your the “headliner” or main resident dj) I would imagine you would want to start off with a nice “bass heavy” track to transition from the previous dj. And from there you would go to a medium build, not quite “anthem” track to get the crowd warmed up to your set. Maybe at the end of that track throw down a nice drop and blast the kids with that popular “anthem” song like “where’s your head at” or something. Then to begin the cycle again you transition to a lower energy song to let the kids feel the next build up all the more. Vocal songs (songs with lyrics lol) maybe play every two or three tracks? What do you guys think?? Is this the basic flow of every ones set? Is there a better way to pump up the energy?

Please, please try to stay away from formulaic thinking like this. Listen to me really carefully, because this is what separates brilliant DJ’s from lame DJs.

Learn how to read the audience!!

You can’t decide what the flow of the night is going to be two weeks before. It’s one of those in the moment things, that point where you have a connection between yourself and the crowd. That’s when the magic happens. When you’re in the mix and people are showing you love, that’s when you’ll find the flow for the night.

I think it’s also important to distinguish if you are going to be playing a lot of your own production work as well.

It comes down to what you feel comfortable doing IMO. Most of the “big name” DJ’s play pre-made sets, but also it’s filled with a lot of their own production work. If you have a rough outline of what you want to do, and want to go from there and “read the audience” it’s another option as well.

Just do what feels comfortable for you.

Is there the other side to that extreme tho? Being completely sporadic and “on the fly”? Basically, as a bedroom dj just practice all your stuff to the point were you feel comfortable mixing in any track to each other and improv the gig?

It’s nice to go in with a plan, but you still need to be flexible enough to know how to react, but it’s still nice to have a direction and goal in mind.

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Is there the other side to that extreme tho? Being completely sporadic and “on the fly”? Basically, as a bedroom dj just practice all your stuff to the point were you feel comfortable mixing in any track to each other and improv the gig?
[/quote]I think the majority of bedroom practice has to not just be mixing anything together (which IMO is not possible while maintaining good flow), but learning your music. It is your ears and the crowd that will tell you which song to bring in next. If you are running a progression and the crowd is digging it, find something similar and keep rolling with it. But never loose site of where you are and where you want to go, just know your music and allow the crowd to guide your song choices.

What I do is build out a basic play list that is a bit all over the place and then read the crowd to see what they respond to best. Then go from there.

:slight_smile:

I don’t think this is a valid comparison. Almost none of us are big-name DJs. When those guys play it’s a totally different experience. People stand and watch, not dance. They have lights, lasers, fog, glowing mouse heads, fire, all kinds of stuff. They can play their pre-made and produced sets because it doesn’t ruin the experience. It’s kinda like big concerts where the performer lip-syncs. Would you tell a aspiring singer to learn how to lip-sync really well? Same thing with beginner DJs. Pre-planned sets are like lip-sync.

So yes, you should be playing sporadic and “on the fly.” Like Argos said, bedroom practice is a good time to learn your music collection. If you know your music well, and you can read the crowd, you can rock a party. It’s not extreme, I see those two things, knowing your music and reading a crowd, as the fundamental skills in DJing. (Well, there’s also having good music, but that’s completely subjective.)

One last caveat: Demo tapes. Script the hell out of those, they need to sound perfect, you at your best. Just don’t make it too crazy, like some 5-track mix that would be impossible for you to do in real time.

" People stand and watch, not dance" :confused:

“big concerts where the performer lip-syncs.” :confused:

“Pre-planned sets are like lip-sync.” :confused:

i’d be surprised if you’re even old enough to go to events, because your opinion sounds like someone who’s just talking out of his ass.

i use story arch / plot structure as a rough guideline for how to manipulate flow of energy for sets. after all the best sets don’t just get people dancing, they tell a story imo.

http://www.musik-therapie.at/PederHill/Structure&Plot.htm

That’s funny, but lets get back on topic. :slight_smile: If your just starting out you’ll more than likely be the opening DJ so don’t play any anthems. Your job is to do just like it sounds, warm up the crowd. When you start there will more than likely be few people dancing and that’s fine. Your there to get them in the mood, buy some drinks and loosen up. As you progress through your set more and more people will start dancing, but you should probably have it set in your head that you don’t want the dance floor packed. That’s the headliners job, do this well and you you’ll progress up to that headliner spot.

I don’t even know where to start with this. You wanna battle or something? :stuck_out_tongue: Read it again, maybe the logic will hit you the fourth time around.
Oakenfold pre-programs sets, therefore I should pre-program sets is invalid logic because you aren’t Oakenfold. You’re DJ Du-de-de in a bar.

What photojojo said is true, but you have to be flexible. What if a group of 15 people come into a bar during “warm-up time” full of energy and WANT TO DANCE NOW!!! Should you stick to your chill tracks or start the night early? Should you really not try to get people dancing because “that’s the headliner’s job?” How are you supposed to get peak hour gigs if you’re the guy nobody dances to? There’s a balance there, and you have to be able to read the crowd and react to what they are doing.

I always held to this guideline starting out:

Basically, for your current playing song, you would be thinking about 25 potential songs (5 for the next song, then 5 for each of those for the follow-up, as thinking two songs ahead helps keep the mood instead of being completely reactionary which would lead to a skitzophrenic set), which seems like a lot at first, but there will be a lot of overlap, and a bunch of the songs will be weeded out immediately. For example, if you’re playing a song with a really strong buildup (but not a room-smashing peak), and the audience is reacting positively with some more energy (more people out on the floor or heading there, more movement and cheering, no line at the bar), then you’ll want to cull down your potential song list to just those that would maintain and even add to that energy, like another buildup or maybe even a peak. Or, if it seems like the current song is losing folks, the situation might call for a slower, downtempo song to kind of soft-reset the mix and give you a fresh chance to build up again.

Approaching it like this when I started out, I began to casually categorize all the tunes into potential categories, and wound up (at least in the beginning) with five basic song archetypes:

-The slow but noticeable buildup (starts simply, builds up in complexity over the course of the song, can be sped up to lead into an even higher energy song, few if any breaks and no real peaks but with a definite energy to the overall feel of the song)

-The quick buildup / peak (builds up quickly, usually has a break in the middle, builds up again to a peak, another break, bigger peak, finishes with a moderate amount of gusto)

-The neutral bridge (no tempo or energy change, good for maintaining energy, can be manipulated via tempo changes to add or subtract energy, to taste)

-The breakdown (may start fast or slow, quickly dissolves into a softer, more deliberate beat, very low-impact)

-The showstopper (somewhere within the song is a big break with a very simple beat, just the melody, or even total silence, all without a follow-up peak, great for dropping the energy quickly but also just as good at leading into a high-energy song with a peak for maximum effect)

This list is ENTIRELY subjective, and in no way encompasses all of the different complexities in music, not even within club music. But, sorting it out this way helped me establish a baseline “go-to” mindset when mixing. I’d be playing a song while considering, “should I follow it up with a buildup and then a peak, or should I do a breakdown first?” And for every song, I had one of each category in mind, just in case, and could react to whatever the situation called for, and then know exactly what to follow it up with. It created very dynamic, fluid mixes that were always in-tune with the audience.

It’s just a baseline, though; as you get more experience, you’ll learn how to take a breakdown and turn it into a peak, or make that super-fast high-energy song a downtempo showstarter. Other factors include key changes (LEARN TO MIX HARMONICALLY, it’s yet another factor in handling energy as, for example, moving up in key creates tension), effects, EQ manipulation, sampling, you name it. But at the core, it’s going to come down to song selection, so at the very least be thinking like a chessmaster and having in mind your 5 next moves, and then 5 follow-up moves for every one of those.

I usually dont play at the same clubs as you guys, but when I headline, I always open up with a very known track that people can sing along. like Morrissey - Suedehead, Peter Bjorn and John - Young Folks, New Order - Blue Monday and so on and I work my way from there.