Musician or DJ ?

Musician or DJ ?

Do you play your DJ gear like an instrument or an a to b type mixing?
I have recently been experimenting a lot with random concepts that make my sets more musical.

Is controlerism being a musician or a DJ ?
I think controlerism is more than just using controllers to control software, is it a whole new genre of music.

So are you a musician or a traditional DJ ?

I feel as if I’m a traditional DJ transitioning to a Musician. I’ve been implementing some original tracks and I’ve actually done a few sets with a guitarist friend of mine…

me and a gitarist friend did that the other night with the loop recorder :slight_smile: worker really well

Make your own tunes = musician
Play other people’s tunes = dj

what is you are making other people tunes your own ?

Arranger, not composer.

musicans create songs with their instruments.

layering fx and cue point juggling onto songs is not the same thing as creating a song from instruments.

alright fair enough but is controllerism a new style of DJing or has it sort of made its own genre ??

The way I see it is that you can do controllerism without DJing the same way you can scratch without mixing. You could just be doing a little routine rather than doing a mix, like ean in those S4 promo vids.

It all overlaps. It doesn’t really matter at the end of the say. All these names and titles are pretty retarded.

I would just like to note that I think anyone who thinks that DJing makes you a musician is a fool.

full ack. with some genres, I’d even go as far as saying that producing doesn’t make you a musician.

Too true. A musician should have a good understanding of musical theory, instinctively if not formally at least. They should be able to understand the relationship between the different keys on a piano even if they cannot play it themselves.

Well, who fucking cares?

Just like this stupid discussion about graffiti being “art” (and hence graffiti writers being “artists”) or not. It really doesn’t matter what you call something. Actually, for me the “high culture” fucked up terms like “musician” and “artist” - I don’t like the narrow-mindedness or the desperate need for a meaning in everything which often comes with it (to come back to the graffiti parallel: to me “street art” is at least 90% crap, a bunch of pseudo-Bohemian yuppie fucks who think they are great artists because they spray-painted a stencil somewhere with a not-so-subtle political message, screw that).

I think the term artist is different. It has a lot more powerful a meaning in my eyes. You have to truly excel in your field and construct powerful and moving pieces to become and artist.

A term such as DJ or musician or more akin to painter or photographer than artist. It’s a reference to a skill set or a medium. They must be brilliant and deeply stimulating to be an artist.

Nah, it’s the same stupid discussion. Who defines who is an artist and who isn’t?

It’s all just smoke and mirrors really…

Re-read my post. I stated that not all painters, DJs, whatever, are artists. I didn’t say shit about who decides exactly who qualifies. You’re not bothering to read what I’m writing.

By starting this thread i didn’t mean to start any conflict or argument.

I just wanted to know who used there controllers like an instrument, who got creative and how they did it, who used complex or simple little tricks to make their mix or routine their own.

The Musician - Dj condition no longer applies. The field of representation is too narrow. This evolution/revolution will define itself and blaze a wide path.

As for now…it’s up to you and how it will unfold in the future.

Here, you can write your own checks.

You are the Pioneers of Controllerism.

The never ending debate.

Boxers of briefs?

There’s no need for a definition…only a result.

Which can only be dtermined by the magical work of…

The PollMaster

(BradCee…for Prime Minister)