Noone is hating on the Traktor software here (except their sneaky restrictions like jog wheels and remix decks). Traktor software and sound cards are used widely in the pro-level environment, but their fragile plastic all-in-ones are nowhere to be seen.
YMMV but my S4 has done nearly 700 gigs (i know this as my accounts show me how many gigs I do per annum).
This doesn’t include home use. It has been an amazing piece of kit that has been thrown around clubs in a drunken haze and my flight case has tumbled down steps etc.
I know a guy that has been through about 4 X1’s and 3 Audio8’s but he, in his own admission is a total button punisher.
Yeah they are plastic, but they are cheap and affordable. I guess that’s a trade off.
I personally do not know how anyone can wreck an X1 within a short space of time but I have seen people ragging on knobs on every kind of controller and mixer and of if you rag on a knob it will break, even if it’s an A&H and especially Pioneer.
I think NI are victims of their own success and that is no bad thing.
If they were so successful, they wouldn’t need to lock down timecode and jog wheels forcing people to buy an S4, and the same with remix decks and the F1.
Edit: And are NI restricting manufacturers even further by blocking the release of new controllers? When was the last time a dedicated controller designed specifically for Traktor was released?
Everything seems to come with Serato these days.
?? how can u claim the Z2 as out of the ordinary. NI was already a hardware producer with the S4 and S2 and already making audio/sound cards… the z2 wasnt that far off. they needed to the vinyl DJs in the market too.
I don’t understand the logic here? Wouldn’t a cynic say that part of their success is due to locking people into a software/hardware bundle (like Apple).
Despite that, their success is undoubted.
I don’t think NI can block anyone. Serato have made new software (Serato DJ) therefore there is a clamour for more Serato based hardware.
I thought there had been plenty of Traktor controllers? A&H, Pioneer, Denon at the very least surely..?
Plus, there is nothing stopping anyone mapping a controller to Traktor, apart from (fully) the remix decks maybe but, they ‘are’ NI’s remix decks after all.
More damn modifiers and condition slots!
Okay I’ll be the one to say it, does anyone else tire of the absolutely insane NI ass-kissing done by and encouraged by some of the mods? Other people do it as well, but I have to point out that the mods have specifically sated that they have to encourage this sort of thing for DJTT’s business plan. Can we at least get better at calling them out on it, guys?
The bullocks being spewed by karlos santos right now is fucking world-class.
have you even used an s4? ive had my s4 for 2 years, actually used it out in clubs (not a bedroom like most haters do) and its survived plenty of use and spills. get out of here.
before u spew nonsense and put words in mods posts, please cite ur sources, or gtfo.
I’m sure life would be much easier for you if everyone would just stfu and agree with your opinion but opinions differ. If he’s satisfied with his gear what do you expect him to say? Where have they said they have to promote Traktor as part of DJTT’s business plan?
Probably, seeing how much the community wanted 350 and 850 hid implementation, and no progress has been made in that direction.
I was fully expecting this from you.
First off, I am not in the pay of NI or DJTT. You’re post is the same bile I have heard before and it is boring.
I am the one criticising NI on their own forum when I don’t agree with them.
When has a Mod ever stated that they encourage anything for DJTT business…??? Point this out to me or do not make such ridiculous statements again. I could care less about DJTT’s bank balance. I am here cus I like the forum and some of the people. You are spouting typical bile. I’ve heard it all before (apart from the DJTT business plan).
The problem with people like you is that you have selective hearing/reading. You pay no attention when I or anyone else agrees on a point where NI have boobed. All you do is pick point at when I or anyone else legitimately and objectively praises them.
Its soooooo boring.
I tell you what we can get better at calling out. People like you that attack, attack, attack and cannot enter into discussion without being either aggressive, obnoxious or personal.
Now, I know you like to come off all bitchin’ on the forum but this time you have overstepped the mark…
If you ever accuse me of what you have in the post above without proving it I will shut you down. Simple as that.
+1
I don’t want to interfere, but don’t you think you’re taking it a bit too far?
Let’s all chill and contribute to the thread in a positive way, mmkay?
Like with the DB2/4, the fact that they’re non-existant in clubs means there’s little incentive to support them.
Still, the xones are not based on an industry standard design. It would have been, you know, nice, if NI thought about the countless bedroom djs who have these players at home.
As suggested earlier, NI are really pushing the bedroom DJs to buy all the NI gear with all the software restrictions they place on other hardware. The lack of integration with CDJs is just the same as the restriction on MIDI jog wheels, Remix Decks, and Timecode.
I’ve had an S4 and surely it can take “some” beating and there is a tradeoff between price and build quality. I had my S4 pre-purchased from DJTT and sent to me in Iraq of all places. It took a beating getting to me, and it worked under some crappy conditions and I didn’t have a case for it. However, I would not say it’s in the same build quality of a DJM-800 or a Rane 57 which are used night after night by numerous DJ’s who care less about the house equipment. If it’s your personal S4, you are going to treat it better than the house mixer.
What, do you think that I should simply take my reputation as a Moderator so lightly that I should allow someone to accuse me of being so partisan that I am giving advice in order to sell product? Really?
I don’t think you understand the importance some Mods put on their roles and how much we (I certainly) strive to be seen as impartial.
It is VERY important to me because my rep as an impartial mod has enabled me to be involved with various companies on their products. I don’t think people send me stuff to test and review to get a sycophantic reply. They do it because they know I will tell them what I think.
I am a fan of Traktor which is why I am involved with NI but I am not in their pay, I am not a fan of NI, just Traktor.
So no, I don’t think I am taking it too far.
That was a personal attack on me and my reputation and I stand by what I said.
^ We all know deep down Karlos hearts Itch 