Native Instruments Maschine encoder pot 0B20K

DJ Life & Community General Discussion
1

Native Instruments Maschine encoder pot 0B20K

I know there have been multiple issues with the maschine and encoders going bad BUT has anyone found an equivalent one that will work as a replacement without having to send the unit in to NI?

I already soldered it and cleaned pot and tried it out…it was better but not 100% responsive like it should be. When I got the encoder apart to clean one of the teeth was already bent…once they are bent it is near impossible to bend it back exactly the way it was

after some more testing I decided to just take the bad pot out altogether and look for a replacement…well, NO LUCK… the pot has 4 lines on bottom with 2 support lines on the side…

This is not my picture or unit but looks the same except green instead of red..same pot part number

IMG_0133_zps067dcb7c.jpg
IMG_0133_zps067dcb7c.jpg1024×768 77.3 KB

I wasn’t sure if this pot would work from livid instruments

pec11_lpart__74788.1355953442.1280.1280.jpg
pec11_lpart__74788.1355953442.1280.1280.jpg100×100 1.55 KB

I’m pretty sure one of the 4 lines is for support only, so i’m hoping it will work.

If anyone has found something that does work LET ME KNOW

2

Have you searched digikey or mouser?

I have replacement encoders and pots for my S2, but I haven’t tried them yet.

You need a linear 20k ohm encoder.

3

can u post a link to what you found for your S2…

4

The S2 encoders are different. 5 pins total.

5

yeah, it would be much easier if NI could just sell the damn part

6

Tell me about it. I’ve been hunting down a fader, and I spent about a week looking everywhere. Minimum order of 308 everywhere until I started emailing random people on eBay lol.

7

Searching on my phone didnt yield anything but if you want an answer you should ask in the Music Tech DIY section of muffwiggler.com

Certain types of pots amd encoders are pretty much impossible to get in small quantities unfortunately though. Im trying to find some Bourns 6mm panel mount d shaft pots but they just arent sold in hobbyist quantities.

8

I may just break down and send the bitch in to NI, they better give me a new f’in board for $150

9

wonder if this would work???

10596-01.jpg
10596-01.jpg600×600 77.1 KB
10596-02.jpg
10596-02.jpg600×600 71.4 KB

seems like I could cut the 3 pins I do not need that power the LED and replace the shaft with the original

10

It looks almost identical in design to the pots used on the X1/S4, but I couldn’t find an endless one that they have on Maschine.

http://www.alps.com/WebObjects/catalog.woa/E/HTML/Potentiometer/RotaryPotentiometers/RK11K11/RK11K1140A2S.html

11

Encoders and pots are very different.

It has the same style as the S4 pot, but different design.

DjLiquitATL: If you can get me measurements of everything on the encoder I can look for it later. Dimensions of base, length of shaft, etc.

12

Yes, the function is different but the housing is almost identical. There don’t seem to be any matching encoders on the Alps website though.

13

I know how to solder and use a multi-meter…that’s about as technical as I get…if this was a 1200 or analog mixer i’d be all over it…I’ve changed multiple bad pots on DJ mixers BUT never a encoder and never something that I have this much trouble locating the part for

i’ll try to post specs in the morning…BUT i’m pretty sure its a 15mm shaft

14

Look at the spec sheet I linked on the previous page; it shows the proper way to measure the length of the shaft.

15

Yea. The datasheet will show you how to measure everything properly.

You just need a pair of calipers.

I really don’t understand why NI is so anal about not selling parts. They already have a sticker over a screw for tamper evidence..

16

Because it costs <$200 to build an S4 from scratch

17

I give up on the search for the encoder. Going to send to NI for a new/refurb unit for $140.00 :rage:

18

Ack. If you send me the dimensions I"ll hunt it down for you!

Or you can mail it to me if you don’t have calipers.

19

Have you actually taken it apart though? Because that’s definitely a warranty voidage.

20

Warranty voidage = you pay for repair

They’ll still work on it.