New Blog Article "A Gift For Our Young Readers & Some Great Gift Ideas
Hey guys just read the new article on the letter that DJTT put together for the younger members/readers to show their parents.
DJTT even put together some “Christmas Controller Gift Bundles” and also made a vid of Ean talking to the parents persuading them to buy their kids DJ gear.
It seems in the comments section of the article, DJTT is taking a lot of flack about this…
So what are your thoughts on this article? To much business and marketing form DJTT’s side?
Is DJTT trying their best to make money and forgetting their roots as a controllerist’s forum?
I’m not bashing DJTT for anything, I love this site, and I understand that the site needs to make money to support itself and staff etc, but is this article a bit to much?
I think an article about inexpensive controllers for beginners would have been much more appropriate. This isn’t a letter to parents, its a letter to the kids similar to the ones you see on childrens television, “get this and be cool”. Iv been “DJ’ing” for over 2 years and while Im getting there I dont have anywhere near as good a setup as the bundles that are on sale. I think it would be ridiculous to buy a child something like those bundles as an introduction to DJ’ing. I really do hope that ean and the DJTT team had good intentions by writing this article.
New Blog Article "A Gift For Our Young Readers & Some Great Gift Ideas
Honestly though if I saw some thirty-something hippy looking guy from cali (I mean this lovingly - not as a disparagement against Ean) trying to explain to me why I should drop a grand on my kid I’d be pretty skeptical. I love Ean but I doubt he polls well with the middle aged conservative crowd, although the evangelicals might give him a second look for fear of retribution.
They should be playing on the “Ean as Jesus” bit. “Buy your kid a controller or my father will smite you.” or something to that effect. now that would have been hilarious.
Anyway, I don’t mind salesmanship if it follows from passion. Nothing wrong with a little marketing, as long as your intentions are right. I see djtt as a responsible company who wouldn’t sell crap or try and cheat you, so I can respect that they play the game a bit. It’s all business at the end of the day.
I don’t see anything wrong in any of this. I am sure most of the comments are from people who don’t have (and probably never will have) kids. DJTT’s customer service is second to none (I was buying from them way before writing for them) and I would buy from the “hippy guy” way before anyone else.
Here’s my advice for our junior members looking to try and sell Mum and Dad on some Xmas kit: forget telling them what it can do, focus on the fact that if something goes wrong these guys will absolutely take care of it. If it comes down to it, show them a picture of Zach with a hat on - that should do the trick.
Yeah I agree, and DJTT is not what it used to be a few years ago. DJTT has expanded at an enormous rate, and is now not only a successful informative forum, but also a successful online store, that needs more than just Ean to support it.
It may have started as just a controller forum, but now it is a successful business, and people need to realize that, and respect it as such.
DJTT for me has improved a lot more recently IMO, with them hosting a awesome online store, and this awesome forum. I have no issues with DJTT trying to go about marketing themselves by whatever means they deemed fit in order to provide us with a professional, informative, fun website.
Since DJTT has expanded their business, I’ve seen and witnessed major improvements on the site, which is great, and I really enjoy it. Running a successful business which is what DJTT is now days, requires clever marketing in order to keep it being successful IMO.
Very well put. People may have an opinion of Ean one way or another, but I don’t believe that anyone would doubt his intentions with this site, or his feelings for what he does. Not everyone is going to be happy with everything… Unfortunately that’s life.
Personally, I think starting on an S4 is severe overkill, as I’m sure the attrition rate for dj’ing is higher than most of us are willing (or in some cases very willing) to admit. That’s a substantial cost for a ‘meh’ hobby.
The essentials bundle is $750. My first setup cost more than that. Granted, I paid for it myself, but it was mostly money that I got for my HS graduation. And, you know, working. But that’s not the point.
If you’re seriously into it and you tell your relatives something like…“I know you want to do something special on your own, but please just all get together and give me this. If you really want me to open something just from you, wrap a box of candy or socks or something, I promise I’ll like it.”…then even $1300 is not a ridiculous gift. Just spread it between 2 parents, 4 grandparents, and some older siblings. I’ve definitely gotten $200 gifts from each of those types of people before.
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with it except that they’re both wrong for me, a bit overpriced, and incomplete.
If you’re talking about coding, I don’t think you know what programming is. I must be misunderstanding something. Then again, it might be a good line for parents, since fewer people understand what programmers do than understand what DJs do.
I’ve tried.
They literally sell nothing that isn’t very overpriced compared to buying locally. And now that I got things like X1s & cases for $100 less than it would have cost from them (back when they sold the cases), they sell nothing that interests me.
If they had a donations page or if the forums had a VIP subscription, I’d send in some money and be happier about it. I wouldn’t give the $250 or so that my stuff would have cost buying from them, but they probably wouldn’t have gotten all of that anyway.
My first set up in '91 cost me £1200. 2 x 1210’s, Citronic SM250, an amp and some speakers.
DJing these days is far cheaper and tunes are much more accessible. Don’t see cost as an issue and as a father I would rather my child was engaging in something creative and educational rather than playing mindless, violent games that focus on death and destruction.
Good on Ean.
Weirdly enough I manage to keep the free (for all) forum part and the business part seperate in my tiny little mind. For all you who think DJTT is selling out, there’s always DJ Forums isn’t there? Oh…
My 2 cents… I think DJTT new marketing promo is a great idea. It serves 2 purposes. Purpose 1 is to sell products. Remember, it takes money to run a successful site, for all us tech junkies. I see nothing wrong with trying to make money as long as the concept of the site remains the same, and not become a corporate mind sucker. After all, when your favorite artist makes money, are they sell out? Only if they start trying to sell you a damn FIAT, live on stage!!! Purpose 2 is to help younger kids convince their parents that DJ’ing is positive. I remember when I was younger, my mother didn’t understand the whole DJ’ing concept. Parents will be more receptive hearing this message from a mature, successful and well articulate person (Ean Golden). I think most negative responses are those who are hearing the message as a DJ and not a message for someone with no clue.
