It’s fucking huge.
Huge? So you want something with knobs encoders and buttons and want it to be tiny?
I named 5 controllers which are all knobs/whatever and are small controllers. Something wrong with them?
Shall I name more? Akai lpd8, gemini firstmix, numark dj2go, hercules dj console mk2, doepfer pocket fader, reloop contour, denon dn hc1000s…
No no not problem at all but i’m aiming for a medium controller not a a small one.
Oh fucks sake I forgot all the faderfoxes. They are like the most obvious examples. Ah well.
Yeah basically I think the BCR is cool, just too big.
Small controllers have the problem that it isn’t easy to make them and the problem that it isn’t very ergonomic, I wouldn’t like to work with faderfoxes for example, too tiny! No space!
Small controllers have the problem that it isn’t easy to make them and the problem that it isn’t very ergonomic, I wouldn’t like to work with faderfoxes for example, too tiny! No space! That’s why i’m aiming for a middle level. But still… You got me thinking… most of the stuff is easy to do with encoders and pots…
I just thought of another 2 banks of pots/encoders! Faderfox FX3 + LD2. I’d love an LD2. Shame they are still pretty expensive.
Yes a bit steep the price but once again… it values. The smaller it gots the harder it is to get the components on place and stuff… And that’s the problem… that needs a really well designed pcb, encoders and buttons made for that… it values the money it costs. But once again… I don’t think that a dj or a producer should work with small stuff at least for me, I dont see me working on that kind of thing… too tiny!
It’s all about getting smaller with ableton my friend. The ableton djs I’ve seen using the mouse have consistently kicked the shit out of those using those using the APC40 
I think it’s to do with the fact they give less of a shit about controlling everything and more about designing a set that sounds good without random effect wankery.
I don’t think like you APC40 is big yes… maybe too big but still… It’s better to have all the control and the more control you have over the program without using the mouse… better! At least as a dj/producer that’s how I think and I know for a fact that much producers/Djs hate to use the mouse and prefer to have a controller, easier to try things out for example.
This with ableton is that you don’t really need that stuff. It’s such a different ball game. Honestly that’s where I’m interested in controllers for. I’d certainly go for something like the twitch for regular mixing, that’s for sure! And the whole thing with hating the mouse is that you can’t operate two controls at once, with ableton this isn’t an issue since the effects of said controls are quantised so you have plenty of time to set up a bunch of action to happen at once.
Trust me, you’ll be amazed what you can do with just firing clips in ableton. Some people prefer a grid (I don’t, I can’t work out what clips are what buttons), some people prefer the mouse. Personally I like a combination of a select-row encoder and fire buttons for each column. 
Naaa… I just dont like to use a mouse to control what I can have in buttons! And that way … you’re not djing… you’re getting all done at home and then just pressing play… why don’t you just record a set and play it? ehehe and a mouse… it seems that you’re consulting your email! ehehe
i know what you mean, i use ableton live but i don’t agree. i prefer to have all the control and if i dont have to use the mouse… great!
It’s not just pressing play, it’s selecting from hundreds of audio snippets across twenty odd channels of music you’ve produced yourself, plus dummy clips for automation. That’s a fuck load more impressive and sounds way better than any standard DJ mix. (if you don’t suck)
Ah… that’s producing live ok ok. Yes it is ehehe. I was searching around here how to send midi events from ableton live. so i can know what leds to light up and stuff
I disagree with that title, nothing is actually being made live so I don’t believe you can honestly and fairly call it live production. You’re just picking tracks, it’s DJing.
This is live production in my eyes. He’s actually making the music rather than replaying it.
Semantics 
Surely that’s what being a member of a tech. forum is all about?
Well … I guess eeheh. Anyhow I think i’ll advance with this… thinking on 8 encoders, 8 pots and 8 buttons… i don’t know yet…
This you tell me weeks after I purchase my Code and before I’ve had the chance to play with it haha.