# New Pioneer CDJ-850 Announced **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [July 8, 2010, 1:32pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/new-pioneer-cdj-850-announced/12403 "2010-07-08T13:32:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![giorgio1712](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/dec6dc/32.png) [@giorgio1712](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/giorgio1712)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2010, 1:32pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/new-pioneer-cdj-850-announced/12403/1 "2010-07-08T13:32:28Z")
**New Pioneer CDJ-850 Announced** Searched the forum but I may have failed, we shall see! But anyways Pioneer have announced a new CDJ, the 850 with HID control, looks to be just an updated 800 mk2 whats everyone think? [http://forums.pioneerdj.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/8091012904/m/539107656](http://forums.pioneerdj.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/8091012904/m/539107656) > **[Nimbus Hosting](http://www.djstore.com/item/cd/piocdj850.htm)** £800 in the UK it seems. ---
**Author:** ![sj03w4t](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/sj03w4t/32/15253_2.png) [@sj03w4t](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/sj03w4t)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2010, 2:19pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/new-pioneer-cdj-850-announced/12403/2 "2010-07-08T14:19:21Z")
Pioneer comes with new shit… again.. overpriced.. /thread ---
**Author:** ![JesC](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/jesc/32/10376_2.png) [@JesC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/JesC)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2010, 4:31pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/new-pioneer-cdj-850-announced/12403/3 "2010-07-08T16:31:02Z")
they are the club standard, and I can see clubs buying the 850’s over the 900’s and mos def over the 2000. Most dj’s will feel more comfortable moving up to the 850’s ---
**Author:** ![bartboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7ab992/32.png) [@bartboy](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/bartboy)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2010, 4:39pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/new-pioneer-cdj-850-announced/12403/4 "2010-07-08T16:39:55Z")
/me starts saving my pennies 😛 That is all I would ever need in a CDJ until the 950 comes out of course 😛 ---
**Author:** ![V-Hoff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/v-hoff/32/11759_2.png) [@V-Hoff](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/V-Hoff)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2010, 8:33pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/new-pioneer-cdj-850-announced/12403/5 "2010-07-08T20:33:30Z")
so overpriced… it’s like to buy a Land Rover to drive in São Paulo Center… so big, so heavy, so modern but still do what my GM Corsa does 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Abyrne7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/919ad9/32.png) [@Abyrne7](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Abyrne7)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 12:30am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/new-pioneer-cdj-850-announced/12403/6 "2010-07-09T00:30:38Z")
Seems pretty lame in my opinion. ---
**Author:** ![sj03w4t](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/sj03w4t/32/15253_2.png) [@sj03w4t](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/sj03w4t)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 12:40am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/new-pioneer-cdj-850-announced/12403/7 "2010-07-09T00:40:04Z")
> [@Abyrne7](#): > > Seems pretty lame in my opinion. Lame, huh? ---
**Author:** ![GPS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8797f3/32.png) [@GPS](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/GPS)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 8:10pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/new-pioneer-cdj-850-announced/12403/8 "2010-07-09T20:10:31Z")
thats comes out to 1200 USD, thats only 100$ less than the 900… ---
**Author:** ![mmauve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f4b2a3/32.png) [@mmauve](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/mmauve)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 8:31pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/new-pioneer-cdj-850-announced/12403/9 "2010-07-09T20:31:28Z")
what a monstrously large hunk of crap. seriously, Technics took the right road. keep the product line simple. “we serve the good shit, and the premium shit. take a pick” Pioneer on the other hand has been burping out the most ridiculously expensive, redundant and thoughtless shit. Isn’t the CDJ-350 like $800?, why the hell wouldn’t I just buy a used CDJ-1000 MK3 at that price (yes, they sell at that price). And the CDJ-850 like Gianmarco said isn’t that far behind the CDJ-900. Why bother with the CDJ-850, you’re already blowing that much money anyway, get the nice one for a little more. This isn’t the first time they released something pointless. Anyone here remember the elusive DMP-555? ---
**Author:** ![JesC](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/jesc/32/10376_2.png) [@JesC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/JesC)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 8:35pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/new-pioneer-cdj-850-announced/12403/10 "2010-07-09T20:35:35Z")
thats why i bought a pair cdj-800 mk1 for 500.00, i dont need a fancy cdj-850. If I use them, its going to be with DVS or straight cds. ---
**Author:** ![GPS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8797f3/32.png) [@GPS](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/GPS)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 8:43pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/new-pioneer-cdj-850-announced/12403/11 "2010-07-09T20:43:39Z")
> [@mmauve](#): > > what a monstrously large hunk of crap. > > seriously, Technics took the right road. keep the product line simple. “we serve the good shit, and the premium shit. take a pick” > > Pioneer on the other hand has been burping out the most ridiculously expensive, redundant and thoughtless shit. Isn’t the CDJ-350 like $800?, why the hell wouldn’t I just buy a used CDJ-1000 MK3 at that price (yes, they sell at that price). And the CDJ-850 like Gianmarco said isn’t that far behind the CDJ-900. Why bother with the CDJ-850, you’re already blowing that much money anyway, get the nice one for a little more. > > This isn’t the first time they released something pointless. Anyone here remember the elusive DMP-555? yep, in my opinion the main difference between all their CDJs is th elook and some more knobs (if any…). They make way to many products. -Gianmarco ---
**Author:** ![mmauve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f4b2a3/32.png) [@mmauve](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/mmauve)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 8:59pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/new-pioneer-cdj-850-announced/12403/12 "2010-07-09T20:59:46Z")
as of current: CDJ-200 CDJ-350 CDJ-400 CDJ-800 CDJ-850 CDJ-900 CDJ-1000MK3 CDJ-2000 I’m not saying their products are shit, but how many ways can you really play a CD lmao. They should just cut the bullshit and make a straight up controller, and get rid of half that shit. I’m sure 2/3 of the reason why they have all these redundant products is small/moderate technological differences they are trying to implement. Just go balls deep and make a damn controller, and go back to making CD decks that aren’t trying to be swiss army knives. Some would argue that they release all these different decks to accommodate consumer price point. It’s Pioneer - there is no price point. ---
**Author:** ![GPS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8797f3/32.png) [@GPS](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/GPS)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 9:15pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/new-pioneer-cdj-850-announced/12403/13 "2010-07-09T21:15:49Z")
> [@mmauve](#): > > as of current: > > CDJ-200 > CDJ-350 > CDJ-400 > CDJ-800 > CDJ-850 > CDJ-900 > CDJ-1000MK3 > CDJ-2000 > > I’m not saying their products are shit, but how many ways can you really play a CD lmao. They should just cut the bullshit and make a straight up controller, and get rid of half that shit. I’m sure 2/3 of the reason why they have all these redundant products is small/moderate technological differences they are trying to implement. Just go balls deep and make a damn controller, and go back to making CD decks that aren’t trying to be swiss army knives. > > Some would argue that they release all these different decks to accommodate consumer price point. It’s Pioneer - there is no price point. _Day after the CDJ-2000 is released_ "Introducing the brand new CDJ-2000MK3. It is so much better that we decided to skip the MK2 all together! The highlight new feature is the new longer pitch-bend fader. Now twice as long! Because we listen to what our customers want, its no surprise that we decided to extend the pitch fader so that it is longer then the unit itself! GET YOUR PITCH BENDING ON! Get yours today for only $2099!\*\*\*" \*\*\* Additional power supply needed for the high powered pitch bend not included. Some parts assembly required. Chocking hazard for children under the age of 3. Pioneer® is not responsible for any injuries that may be acquired through its use. ---
**Author:** ![lethal\_pizzle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/lethal_pizzle/32/11770_2.png) [@lethal\_pizzle](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/lethal_pizzle)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 9:22pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/new-pioneer-cdj-850-announced/12403/14 "2010-07-09T21:22:08Z")
I’m sure Pioneer are gonna end up doing their own legs over HID eventually. People will get used to the HID and realise they’ve just basically bought a souped up controller. You can get TPro + a VCI-100 + Audio2 for about £580 notes. It most respects it’ll do more than 2x850s plus a DJM-800 + TPro. The FX are better, I can map it exactly how I want etc. Also I can fit this solution into pretty much any booth. The Pioneer solution has some advantages (higher resolution knobs, waveform and track info on the controller). But it would cost almost £3,000. Pioneer will lose sales to homes. Then, when home users take their setup to play out in a single laptop bag and venue owners see that their expensive equipment isn’t being utilised as much, Pioneer will lose venue sales too. I’d expect the market forces of supply and demand to drive the prices of Pioneer equipment down. Either that or they go bust eventually. $0.02 ---
**Author:** ![mmauve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f4b2a3/32.png) [@mmauve](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/mmauve)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 9:26pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/new-pioneer-cdj-850-announced/12403/15 "2010-07-09T21:26:38Z")
> [@](#): > > It is so much better that we decided to skip the Mk2 all together! quote of the day lol ---
**Author:** ![JesC](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/jesc/32/10376_2.png) [@JesC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/JesC)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 10:01pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/new-pioneer-cdj-850-announced/12403/16 "2010-07-09T22:01:22Z")
> [@](#): > > \*\*\* Additional power supply needed for the high powered pitch bend not included. Some parts assembly required. Chocking hazard for children under the age of 3. Pioneer® is not responsible for any injuries that may be acquired through its use. Whoa. LOL ---
**Author:** ![josh\_firestorm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/josh_firestorm/32/11798_2.png) [@josh\_firestorm](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/josh_firestorm)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 2:57am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/new-pioneer-cdj-850-announced/12403/17 "2010-07-10T02:57:47Z")
> [@lethal\_pizzle](#): > > I’m sure Pioneer are gonna end up doing their own legs over HID eventually. People will get used to the HID and realise they’ve just basically bought a souped up controller. > > You can get TPro + a VCI-100 + Audio2 for about £580 notes. It most respects it’ll do more than 2x850s plus a DJM-800 + TPro. The FX are better, I can map it exactly how I want etc. Also I can fit this solution into pretty much any booth. > > The Pioneer solution has some advantages (higher resolution knobs, waveform and track info on the controller). But it would cost almost £3,000. > > Pioneer will lose sales to homes. Then, when home users take their setup to play out in a single laptop bag and venue owners see that their expensive equipment isn’t being utilised as much, Pioneer will lose venue sales too. > > I’d expect the market forces of supply and demand to drive the prices of Pioneer equipment down. Either that or they go bust eventually. > > $0.02 while i do agree somewhat (most of) what you have said, i can’t really see clubs stopping from buying pioneer’s gear. that will only happen if/when pioneer stop sponsoring all the big names in the dj world… and there’s always some douchebag wanna be dj that will go and buy X & Y pioneer products because DJ x-x-x only uses pioneer’s products X & Y if anything when it comes to upgrading or replacing equipment the venue owners of clubs and bars that dont have big names travelling through their booths will ‘downgrade’ by installing cdj-400’s and such. i have already seen it happen in a few bars around Melbourne over the last 18 months or so. a cdj 350 or 400 is enough cd player for 99% of dj’s anyway IMHO ---
**Author:** ![rt24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a698b9/32.png) [@rt24](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/rt24)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 3:24am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/new-pioneer-cdj-850-announced/12403/18 "2010-07-10T03:24:54Z")
ZERO cue points/hot cues? What the hell are these guys thinking lol… ---
**Author:** ![giorgio1712](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/dec6dc/32.png) [@giorgio1712](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/giorgio1712)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 9:33am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/new-pioneer-cdj-850-announced/12403/19 "2010-07-10T09:33:41Z")
> [@](#): > > thats comes out to 1200 USD, thats only 100$ less than the 900… Yer it doesn’t work that way, it’s $999 and we in the UK get an inflated price. If it just went off the exchange rate we should get it in the UK for £650 but we dont! ---
**Author:** ![josh\_firestorm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/josh_firestorm/32/11798_2.png) [@josh\_firestorm](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/josh_firestorm)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2010, 7:24am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/new-pioneer-cdj-850-announced/12403/20 "2010-07-12T07:24:33Z")
CDJ-850 Aussie street price rumored to be $1000AUD at launch [Next page](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/new-pioneer-cdj-850-announced/12403.md?page=2)