Onboad Audio Interface with 2.5 or 1 ms of latency, no distortion
Last night, i managed to use my laptop onboard audio interface with 2.5 and 1 ms of latency, in Traktor Pro, with no distortion at all!!! Did anyone manage to do this already??? Next step is to see if the spdif works fine too! If it does, no need for an external interface. 
Laptop: Asus G1S
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate
Drivers: ASIO4ALL
Sample Rate: 96 kHz (it works fine it all the values)
Buffer: 128 (F**K YEAH )
mmmâŚI would not do that mate.
The internal Sound Device is stock standard.
So you pretty much trying to Nascar in a Prius.
The External Sound Card will have much better converters.
AlsoâŚthere is an article around here by FatlimeyâŚhe had a good deal to say about latency and the way we look and work it.
We are NOT actually doing it right.
Yup, and all it takes is one hiccup and itâll sound fucking terrible.
And just because you can doesnât mean you should. But itâs your rep and they are your gigs, so rock out.
Are you gonna be able to master and monitor thru SPDIF?
No cus its a digital output innit ..?
explain to me what is the impact of the so called âbetter convertersâ
better audio quality? the audio quality that i had with M-audio Audiophile Firewire is about the same as with the onboard interface.
there are converters 
Yes but i have a similiar problem when i use the M-Audio Audiophile Firewire. For example, there are moments when im navigating in Traktorâs browser menu with the browser buttons of the vci-100 and everytime i push one of those buttons, it distorts the audio! Really weird. So, i needed a second option..
I remember when i used Windows Vista with Traktor. After about 15 minutes (with M-Audio Audiophile Firewire), the sounds becomes totally distorted and i donât know why!!!
I wonder if anyone would really be able to tell the difference in sound quality between an external card (like the Audio4/8) and an internal card (built into mobo). Might be worth an article here.
+1
this
how come quotes dont show up within quotes??? kinda lame
but I guess m-audio is not so famous for itâs sound cards.
Also if youâre gonna be playing @ 120dB the slightest crackle is at full power so audible which sucks
WellâŚall the NI Audio 4\8 owners canât be wrong!
I have yet to hear someone say the output of these cards are dodgey sounding.
Cirrus Logic are reknowned for making really good ADA Converters.
This is when the sound is converted from your PCâs data to Audio data.
The switchable multiple channels âŚthis all plays a roll.
So you might not have gotten the best results from your M-Audio cardâŚbut i have also come to find that they donât make the greatest Sound Cards.
Could be many factors⌠Windows included!
I do have to laugh when all of this rears itâs ugly head every few weeks or soâŚ
I have lots of vinyl and I remember playing most of it out through amplifiers and eqâs that were so basic that some of the young ones wouldnât believe it. There were regular pops, crackles, hisses and the occasional jump of the record from time to time. Nowadays all I hear is how analogue sounds so much better than digital and how it feels so much warmer than itâs numerical cousin. I have to laugh to myself in quietâŚ
I will agree there is something magical about vinyl, something you just canât get with a download, but as far as quality goes Iâm going to stick my neck out and say that digital is at least on a par with analogue. There is a clarity of mids and highs that you just donât get with vinyl. The bass may be hugely understated but that can be compensated for. Anyone who has tried to eq out the crackles and hisses of an acetate would surely agree with me. No?
I may be an old man in DJ terms, but I donât feel that way when it comes to playing the sounds I love. I remember the best parties I ever went to. Were they supremely polished events that went off without a hitch, or were they the mad times when you never knew what was going to happen next and there was always the possibility of some kind of problem ?
The answer, as always, is somewhere in between. We need to stop being so anal about everything. We need to stop wanting to control the party as if it was ours. Itâs not. Itâs all well and good wanting to provide your customers with the best you can provide, but for god sake credit them with some intelligence. I guarantee you that that a party will rock with good tunes, good people and a good atmosphere much better than a party with a good venue, good sound system and good lighting.
The technical stuff is important but itâs nowhere near as important as moving the crowd. We should all be learning the skillz first and the technicalities second.
agreedâŚbut surely if you being paid top dollar and the punter is paying top dollar⌠I would expect some to jam with at least with a proper setup. If i was playing along side a guy using onboard sound⌠I would seriously think he is taking the piss. If you starting outâŚsure. But not at that level. But i do agree. From the crowds point of view âŚi doubt they will care whether you rock out with BCD or Lemur. As long as you use it well. I would just like my gear to serve me not work against me.
Did you try upping your latency? I just have a really hard time believing that you can have a meaningful DJ experience using the main outs of your laptop. And itâs not like having a latency between 7 and 11ms is going to make much of any of a difference to you.
And the article idea should be more âWhy using your internal soundcard is a bad idea.â If it works for you, rock on, but if it stops working mid-gig youâre going to be one embarassed, and out of work, DJ.
Iâm a dnb producer by trade but dj as an unintentional side effect⌠Iâve used quite a few different pro-audio soundcards and yes, there is a difference with the D/A converters on the top end ones. You also get more reliable drivers which results in less likelyhood of stutters at lower latencies.
But, this the higher quality D/A converters are only really noticeable when you have high quality studio monitoring. Running an internal soundcard through most club PAâs will usually suffice for most people - and the crowd will be none the wiser. The one problem I have noticed however is volume⌠internal soundcards seem to sound quieter but this could be down to the D/Aâs having less dynamic range and not being able to as accurately re-produce bass/treble as a proaudio soundcard.
My 2câŚ
So i have an ASUS K50, and iâm pretty sure that they both have the same soundcard, VIA HD onboard audio. And yes this is a great soundcard for home theater uses.
For your sake I ran a little test today, i compared it with my NI Audio 2, i used ableton live for all playback and set it at all different rates. On thing was obvious, the laptop soundcard was better than any other internal soundcard iâve heard. But it just couldnât compare to the Audio 2. Even when i set the onboard at 96 and 192, it still wasnât as good as the audio 2 at 48. I did all of the test through my JBL Control 2P Monitors and then through my Sony MDR-SA5000 headphones. I could really tell a drastic difference once i put my headphones on
Side note, the internal soundcard sounded way better than my friends M-Audio Fast Track USB.
care to explain why you said that the onboard interface doesnât compare to NI Audio 2?
my onboard interface doesnât have 192 kHz as a choice for sample rate 
The low end wasnât as punchy, didnât have the thumping feel. The high ends asnât as crisp. It almost sounded distorted, like a cheap compressor was being used over the mix.
I didnât even know mine had that high of a sample rate untill i did the test. Since i donât use my laptop for anything but music, i never even bothered to check the internal card.