As my recent thread on this matter got deleted due to the server problems, I am posting this again.
I am running Traktor 3.3.2 and use the VCI-100 SE.
So at my latest gig I experienced some issues with the Traktor effects. At the beginning of the set everything was just fine. But as the time progressed and the effects had been used more and more times, they started to offset (drift apart). That is, the effect knobs on the VCI and the equivalent virtual knobs in Traktor went out of sync, aka. they didn’t align. The result of this was fx. an almost kill effect of all sound – to my big surprise - when I turned the beatmasher on, cause the knobs in Traktor weren’t all the way to the left, as they were on the VCI!
I tried to correct the knobs in Traktor using the mouse, but it wouldn’t let me. They just jumped back to the original position when I let go of the mouse button.
The described problem also happened to the filter knobs (below the EQ’s).
In Traktor I have an effect panel for each channel, A and B.
After the set was done, I restarted Traktor, and everything was back to normal (that’s just freaking hard to do in the middle of a set ).
I think it has something to do with not resetting the knobs on the VCI all the way to the left, before changing the effect. But that just shouldn’t be a problem, right?
Anybody else experienced this, or have any idea how to solve the problem?
/Cheers
Actually I have experienced this. 2 weeks ago while practicing a set, 1.5 hrs into it, the effects got all out of whack. I thought it was just me, MAYBE doing something weird i.e. using the high/low filter, after using a different effect, but forgetting to push the effect button to reset and engage FIRST.
I havent had a chance to test out again, whether it was me making a mistake or in fact a programmatic issue.
This could very well be a part of the problem. I just cant understand that Traktor cant keep track of the knob possitions, even if you forget to push e.g. the filer engage button first.
I get the feeling that nothing went wrong in Traktor, but this was a user-error in that you used an effect, then switched your MIDI page or whatever and used the same knob again for another function. Then upon returning to the original MIDI page, your knob and the knob on-screen would not correlate.
except that the controls he is talking about are not different on any midi pages. This really sounds like a Traktor problem. The hardware is fixed so any time it moves the connected knob moves in relation- they should never slowly drift apart. Now if they were different one time, and moving the hardware knob re-set it then thats normal.
Let me explain how the FX buttons work so you understand the techology behind this edition.
The Filter and FX sections are not seperate FX but all controlling a single effect slot. So, if you are tweaking the knobs of a echo, and then turn on a filter the knobs are no longer going to be in the same position on the software then they are on the hardware.
This is why. In order to make a filter work you need to do a number of things:
Turn the Q to to 55-60%
Turn it on
turn the wet dry blend to %100
Our filter button does all this for you. Try it out by changing any of those settings and then hit the filter button. It will re-set the knobs to a default position.
The other FX work the same way. Hitting the effect will reset all the knobs to a default state which may not match the current knobs.
Yeah ok. This makes good sence. But it just dossent explain how my hardware and software effect/filter knobs could come out of sync, without me being able to bring them back into sync. According to your explanation, this shouldnt be possible, right? Or am I wrong?
Do you always reset your effect knobs to 0% and the filter knob to 50% after using an effect/filter?
I have tried some times (just made it happen again) when hitting the filter engage button after using another effect, that the Q value of the filter dosent reset to 55% but 25% or even less. This can give some rather unpleasent suprices. This shouldnt be happening right?
Also just made hitting the filter button almost kill the sound. This issent supposed to happen no matter how your knobs er set, right (as you said, hitting the filter button should always reset the filter values)?
I find sometimes if I do a filter sweep it doesn’t always make it back to 100%.
e.g I’ll bring the filter knob to the left to cut out all the highs and then when I bring the knob back it’s center position (which should be filter100%OPEN) it’ll be at anwhere between 94 and 100%.
This means sometimes when trying to slam the music back in at full fidelity, some of the highs are still filtered off - Which kinda spoils the effect!
If this happens, I can only guarantee getting it to 100% again (fully open) by clicking on the knob within traktor…
Please correct me if I’m wrong:
So hitting the filter button or any other effect button should never actually turn the effect/filter on, before any knobs are touched, right?
Hitting an effect/filter button should always set the amt. knob to 0% (no matter the actual possition of the matching hardware knob), right?
because we are splitting a knob in half to create the effect, the distance between 94 and 100 is quite small and in some rare cases it might not go all teh way to 100. Usually it does but any time it does not just moving the knob has always fixed it for me.
So alot of posts in this thread got deletet. I will try again.
I have updated to Traktor 3.4.1 and am still having problems with the effects.
I discoverede that engaging an effect (pushing the effect button) after using the filter, sometimes turns the effect “on” and sometimes you need to activate the amount knob to turn it “on”.
I don’t know if this helps, but this is what I’ve discovered using tks v1.3 TT-Style:
at startup all works great, the filter button sets filter with correct parameters values: when filter knob is in center position amt is 0% and when I move that knob amt changes to 100% and engages filter moving its parameters. If, for example, now I push effect echo button the amt for echo is 0% and when I move its knobs I engage echo fx.
If I engage deck c mode and I press filter button, the amt isn’t 0% as before when the filter knob is in center position but it remains always at 100%… Now if I push one of the other effects buttons, for example echo, the amt remains at 100% and echo starts immediately…
So, I think it’s a tks problem: it seems that the page#2 of tks isn’t configured properly… I’ll try to check this evening…
I hope you understand…
P.S. I use the correct procedure to engage effects and filters: 1) push button 2) move knobs 3) move amt knob to 0% 4) push another fx button… and so on…
What you experience in deck C mode, I experience all the time - filter amount knob is always 100% in my setup, which i my case means that hitting an effect after the filter, turns on the effect emidiatly.
I find that quite often too, example, I’ll do some filterstuff - then when I hit the beat repeat button to switch to that effect, it’ll engage the effect! by which I mean the mix setting is not at 0% - leading to a drop out in sound.
The problem with this is that I can’t solve it by turning down the mix/frz knob down to 0% before hitting the FX button as it moves the filter!
I’ve worked hard for about 4 hours and I think I’ve solved the problem!
This tks is derived from tks 1.3TT, I’ve only added some notes on effect button 1 and effect knob 1…
Woooha! This has fixed the problem for me! Also works in all the performance modes. Fantastic work fcarsana, thank you very much.
The reason why this works is that it resets the amount knob to 0% whenever the filter knob is at 12 o’clock. This means that engaging an effect efter using the filter, dosent turn the effect on, since the amount knob is kept a 0%.
This must be a genral bug-fix, that needs to be incoorporated in the official tks files, imo.
But tell me, have you touched anything else in the tks file other than the effect fix. I would just hate to run into any unpleasent surprises
Now I just need to get the outside of the jogs to work like they do in the 1.2 tks.
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