# Potential Traktor Music Management Updates **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [August 16, 2016, 12:54pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/potential-traktor-music-management-updates/74668 "2016-08-16T12:54:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Patch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/patch/32/118_2.png) [@Patch](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Patch)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 12:54pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/potential-traktor-music-management-updates/74668/1 "2016-08-16T12:54:18Z")
**Potential Traktor Music Management Updates** Just saw this image in the DJTT blog, and I got very excited: ![original.jpg](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/uploads/techtools/original/3X/1/4/1456b8def53f98f9a6ac6365f5690d5bd8e85708.jpeg) I don’t think I could pick only 5 to be honest… Some of those are HUGE for me. I’m especially interested in the “iTunes Playlist Sync”. I’d LOVE it if Traktor would update the iTunes “Played” count tag, with in Traktor Plays… ---
**Author:** ![SlayForMoney](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/slayformoney/32/14501_2.png) [@SlayForMoney](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/SlayForMoney)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 4:07pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/potential-traktor-music-management-updates/74668/2 "2016-08-16T16:07:32Z")
Divide & conquer. They should have done all (or at least most) of those updates long time ago - instead they poured all of their time and money into stems/remix and blocked all other manufacturers from Traktor. Now, when #futureofdjing didn’t pan out the way they thought it would, they dangle that list in front of users hoping you would be entertained and hyped for the next release and don’t jump ship to RekordboxDJ or SeratoDJ. ---
**Author:** ![maccwerk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@maccwerk](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/maccwerk)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 6:19pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/potential-traktor-music-management-updates/74668/3 "2016-08-16T18:19:08Z")
Impressive, and well-needed list of features, for sure, but does seem a bit late-to-the game. Hopefully we’ll hear something more concrete soon. ---
**Author:** ![sunnyjendro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/85f322/32.png) [@sunnyjendro](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/sunnyjendro)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 7:19am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/potential-traktor-music-management-updates/74668/4 "2016-08-17T07:19:12Z")
Been waiting for most of those changes for years but I think they, at the moment, should focus on stability of the software as many of us experianced music pauses, glitches, pops etc. For last several updates NI tried to introduce new functions to software which wasn’t reliable. Stable software is vital for us to be professional performers. ---
**Author:** ![Stewe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/stewe/32/14607_2.png) [@Stewe](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Stewe)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 12:19pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/potential-traktor-music-management-updates/74668/5 "2016-08-17T12:19:24Z")
They should do this for the Controller Manager update many years ago as well. ---
**Author:** ![padi\_04](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/padi_04/32/56291_2.png) [@padi\_04](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/padi_04)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 3:03pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/potential-traktor-music-management-updates/74668/6 "2016-08-17T15:03:17Z")
> [@SlayForMoney](#): > > Divide & conquer. They should have done all (or at least most) of those updates long time ago - instead they poured all of their time and money into stems/remix and blocked all other manufacturers from Traktor. > Now, when #futureofdjing didn’t pan out the way they thought it would, they dangle that list in front of users hoping you would be entertained and hyped for the next release and don’t jump ship to RekordboxDJ or SeratoDJ. Pretty much my thoughts exactly and I’m already seeing a growing group of people who is making the switch (myself included). Anyway, it’s good that they are finally waking up and actually getting some sort of interest on what people really need. ---
**Author:** ![maccwerk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@maccwerk](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/maccwerk)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 6:11pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/potential-traktor-music-management-updates/74668/7 "2016-08-17T18:11:15Z")
Yep, I’ve more or less made the switch over to RekordboxDJ over the last few months… I’d been holding onto my two Traktor D2s in case the Stems format took off, and we started seeing some more techno releases there, but it’s not looking likely. I think I’ll be selling those off soon, and going all-in Rekordbox. ---
**Author:** ![ImNoDJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/977dab/32.png) [@ImNoDJ](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/ImNoDJ)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2016, 12:26am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/potential-traktor-music-management-updates/74668/8 "2016-08-18T00:26:32Z")
Traktor 3 should be finished and ready for release if NI have any hope of competing with Rekordbox in the next few years. The Traktor browser is many years out of date, is broken in many ways, and is painful to use compared to other DJ software browsers. The fact that they are asking for input, rather than already having finished a new browser to modern standards just says that they have no idea what they are doing, or what sort of software they want to make. What the hell has happened to NI? ---
**Author:** ![rdej47](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/rdej47/32/16175_2.png) [@rdej47](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/rdej47)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2016, 3:51am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/potential-traktor-music-management-updates/74668/9 "2016-08-19T03:51:10Z")
> [@ImNoDJ](#): > > Traktor 3 should be finished and ready for release if NI have any hope of competing with Rekordbox in the next few years. > > The Traktor browser is many years out of date, is broken in many ways, and is painful to use compared to other DJ software browsers. > > The fact that they are asking for input, rather than already having finished a new browser to modern standards just says that they have no idea what they are doing, or what sort of software they want to make. > > What the hell has happened to NI? Depending on when this survey was sent that’s definitely not a good sign of development. That would mean that this is just at the discussion level for what they should improve, rather than something that’s already being developed. It is sad to see that their second attempt at “the future of DJing” (remix decks first, followed by stems) hasn’t really taken off. It was an improvement in some ways over the remix decks but ultimately the issue still comes back to content. The whole point of stems is being able to mix and match other stem tracks for a new level of remixing, but if your main genres aren’t well supported (hip-hop) or you can only find a few stem tracks you like than it’s not very practical. I imagine that developing stems took a lot of time and resources to develop, which means that things that people have been asking for i.e. better track management, just got pushed to the wayside in the hopes that Stems would be a killer feature. It’s amazing how quickly Rekordbox has been able to catch up simply by replicating features from Traktor and Serato and having the best track management system. There are so many smart things about their track management and it makes sense that people are willing to switch for it. Only some DJs may like or “need” stems but every DJ needs good track management to find and play the right song at the right time. ---
**Author:** ![ImNoDJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/977dab/32.png) [@ImNoDJ](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/ImNoDJ)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2016, 4:20am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/potential-traktor-music-management-updates/74668/10 "2016-08-19T04:20:36Z")
> [@rdej47](#): > > Depending on when this survey was sent that’s definitely not a good sign of development. That would mean that this is just at the discussion level for what they should improve, rather than something that’s already being developed. > > It is sad to see that their second attempt at “the future of DJing” (remix decks first, followed by stems) hasn’t really taken off. It was an improvement in some ways over the remix decks but ultimately the issue still comes back to content. The whole point of stems is being able to mix and match other stem tracks for a new level of remixing, but if your main genres aren’t well supported (hip-hop) or you can only find a few stem tracks you like than it’s not very practical. > > I imagine that developing stems took a lot of time and resources to develop, which means that things that people have been asking for i.e. better track management, just got pushed to the wayside in the hopes that Stems would be a killer feature. > > It’s amazing how quickly Rekordbox has been able to catch up simply by replicating features from Traktor and Serato and having the best track management system. There are so many smart things about their track management and it makes sense that people are willing to switch for it. Only some DJs may like or “need” stems but every DJ needs good track management to find and play the right song at the right time. Yep, i dont think NI understand how poor their browser is. They tell you to use Itunes for advanced playlisting, but Traktor doesnt support ALAC on Windows (7,8), so if you use ALAC files in Itunes then you cant use itunes in Traktor. You literally have to choose between audio quality and powerful playlisting, you dont get both. Its kind of pathetic. ---
**Author:** ![johnyfav](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/johnyfav/32/16336_2.png) [@johnyfav](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/johnyfav)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2016, 10:49am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/potential-traktor-music-management-updates/74668/11 "2016-08-19T10:49:57Z")
The coloured and named cue points is something I’ve been hoping for for 3 years… I’m sure traktor still looks horrible on a retina display too… I’ve had one for 2 years now? ---
**Author:** ![SlayForMoney](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/slayformoney/32/14501_2.png) [@SlayForMoney](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/SlayForMoney)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2016, 11:41am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/potential-traktor-music-management-updates/74668/12 "2016-08-19T11:41:58Z")
> [@rdej47](#): > > Only some DJs may like or “need” stems but every DJ needs good track management to find and play the right song at the right time. Give this man a cookie! 👍 ---
**Author:** ![padi\_04](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/padi_04/32/56291_2.png) [@padi\_04](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/padi_04)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2016, 1:34pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/potential-traktor-music-management-updates/74668/13 "2016-08-19T13:34:58Z")
> [@johnyfav](#): > > The coloured and named cue points is something I’ve been hoping for for 3 years… > > I’m sure traktor still looks horrible on a retina display too… I’ve had one for 2 years now? Yup, you can check the image below in full detail here but in all fairness Serato is still lacking in this front ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/uploads/techtools/original/3X/c/5/c5fff2f12f346d1aacb2fdf58fa97bd15ecf4179.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![SlayForMoney](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/slayformoney/32/14501_2.png) [@SlayForMoney](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/SlayForMoney)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2016, 6:22pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/potential-traktor-music-management-updates/74668/14 "2016-08-19T18:22:43Z")
> [@](#): > > Yup, you can check the image below in full detail here but in all fairness Serato is still lacking in this front I know you guys want to feel better about dropping +1k on a retina laptop but be real: looks are the last thing that should be on the development list, as long as there are known bugs and missing big features ---
**Author:** ![padi\_04](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/padi_04/32/56291_2.png) [@padi\_04](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/padi_04)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2016, 7:45pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/potential-traktor-music-management-updates/74668/15 "2016-08-19T19:45:17Z")
> [@SlayForMoney](#): > > I know you guys want to feel better about dropping +1k on a retina laptop No, not even close. All I’m saying is that they should support it seeing the number of people using Retina Macs these days, besides there are tons of Windows based laptops with high res displays as well. I’m not saying it should be a top priority, just that it’s nice that RB already shipped with that bit sorted and I’m 100% on your side with stating they should fix the primary bugs and workflow improvements in needs and that’s most likely why they haven’t implemented it yet. ---
**Author:** ![SlayForMoney](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/slayformoney/32/14501_2.png) [@SlayForMoney](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/SlayForMoney)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2016, 12:26pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/potential-traktor-music-management-updates/74668/16 "2016-08-20T12:26:36Z")
> [@](#): > > No, not even close. All I’m saying is that they should support it seeing the number of people using Retina Macs these days, besides there are tons of Windows based laptops with high res displays as well. I’m not saying it should be a top priority, just that it’s nice that RB already shipped with that bit sorted and I’m 100% on your side with stating they should fix the primary bugs and workflow improvements in needs and that’s most likely why they haven’t implemented it yet. Yeah, if they hadn’t tried to reinvent DJing with remix decks & stems you can bet your ass we would have it now including a superior keylock, track managment and everything else our little hearts desire. 🙂 And I guess you are right about wanting new features (after all, you cannot stop adding new features completely until you are bug-free because that’s not feasible) it’s just… retina support really is a strictly visual thing. There are so many other features at this point that IMO they should start thinking about it only when their retina userbase becomes +50%. And I don’t think they are up there yet (but it will be). ---
**Author:** ![dj4ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@dj4ever](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/dj4ever)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2016, 10:46pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/potential-traktor-music-management-updates/74668/17 "2016-08-20T22:46:18Z")
> [@ImNoDJ](#): > > Traktor 3 should be finished and ready for release if NI have any hope of competing with Rekordbox in the next few years. > > The Traktor browser is many years out of date, is broken in many ways, and is painful to use compared to other DJ software browsers. > > The fact that they are asking for input, **rather than already having finished a new browser to modern standards just says that they have no idea what they are doing** , or what sort of software they want to make. > > What the hell has happened to NI? Then stop using it, and use the product you feel is better. It’s that simple. ---
**Author:** ![dj4ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@dj4ever](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/dj4ever)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2016, 10:55pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/potential-traktor-music-management-updates/74668/18 "2016-08-20T22:55:41Z")
The new NI traktor update is pretty stable. ---
**Author:** ![ImNoDJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/977dab/32.png) [@ImNoDJ](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/ImNoDJ)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2016, 4:46am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/potential-traktor-music-management-updates/74668/19 "2016-08-22T04:46:55Z")
> [@dj4ever](#): > > Then stop using it, and use the product you feel is better. It’s that simple. Im sorry that my valid criticisms of a piece of DJ software trigger you. Feel free to not read my posts, its that simple. ---
**Author:** ![dj4ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@dj4ever](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/dj4ever)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2016, 5:41am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/potential-traktor-music-management-updates/74668/20 "2016-08-22T05:41:01Z")
> [@ImNoDJ](#): > > Im sorry that my valid criticisms of a piece of DJ software trigger you. > > Feel free to not read my posts, its that simple. You’ve been complaining about traktor for months. Just switch to Pioneer already. People who actually DJ have already switched already. [Next page](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/potential-traktor-music-management-updates/74668.md?page=2)