Reason 5.0
Anybody got into using Reason 5.0 I tried it but didn’t really like it so im sticking to version 4.0
I have reason / record. ive played with it a little.
i like it, im putting my eggs completely in that basket. i just havent had time for dj’ing or production since midterms. im hoping i have time next month once this move is finally finished.
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I have reason / record. ive played with it a little.
i like it, im putting my eggs completely in that basket. i just havent had time for dj’ing or production since midterms. im hoping i have time next month once this move is finally finished.
[/quote]Isn’t record just like reason but you can record live into Record…?
I’ve messed around with THOR a bit.
I’m kind of a fan, the sound is much richer than Operator/Analog in live.
Haven’t gotten into the KONG yet. I might, though
actually it adds a lot.
the biggest thing is mastering your tracks. it has a model of the SSL 9000k analog mixer. you hear a lot of ableton guys dumping their stems to pro tools for a better mixer and eq. basically, this adds, that, but a lot of other stuff, arrangements, comping, you can export stems, and a bunch of other things too long to list here really. oh you also get the line6 stuff, which gives you one more box to make messed up sounds with =p.
also it adds support for multiple processors as well.
I use Reason 5 ReWired into Ableton 8. It’s an absolutely amazing combo for production.
Kong along with some MClass mastering effects and a line mixer lets you EQ the drums perfectly in Reason and then ReWire them into Ableton. Also, Thor and Subtronic are good (for Dubstep stuff).
Personally, I’m using Kong rewired into Ableton for my drums and running layered instances of NI’s Massive with various effects, settings etc in Ableton to get some quality dubstep drum and bass combos.
For synths, I’ve saved preset combinators in Reason for sounds similar to real synths, like the Juno synth, so have them at my disposal if needs be too.
Having this then lets me used Waves vst’s in Ableton to master the sound to get a warm, rich sound and I feel that Ableton + Reason rewired is pretty much unlimited, and maybe unbeatable in the production market.
Truly an amazing production combination.
its would be better to finalize and mix in something like pro-tools, reason mixer sound cheap. Its only a good synth with some nice tweaking you can run in rewire
Was that a response to me? I finalise in Ableton. Just use Reason as a synth to ReWire into Ableton. Hence why I said I use Waves VST’s in Ableton (as VST’s aren’t usable in Reason).
Talking with a couple producer friends that make in excess of 80k a year producing, they both tell me the mixer in record is as good, and in some ways better than the mixer in pro tools.
its an amazing bundle for the money.
I love the new Reason. I find Kong way more intuitive than Redrum, but I was never a huge step sequencer fan. And I love being able to do live sampling on the fly (if you would use that kind of thing). The HUGE library of sounds, combined with the infinite ways you can destroy them makes it almost unnecessary to pay for any sound libraries and what have you…
I like the idea of blocks arranging, but I do think it could be refined. It just doesn’t feel as “simple” as they marketed it.
I think a lot of people are turned off to Reason because 1) It’s completely autonomous/self-contained, no VSTs allowed. However, it’s versatility in creating sounds is almost limitless, which I feel makes VSTs unnecessary…which on the flipside means 2) There’s a pretty steep learning curve to it.
Once you get a feel for the interface though, it’s great. As a testament to its versatility, sometimes I’ll just open it up and see if I can clone a particular sound/synth I hear in a song…
Like others, though, I do prefer to bounce tracks out for final mixdown and mastering.
I’d kind of agree and disagree with this.
A few of my producer/engineer friends like software like Ableton, Cubase, ProTools, Logic etc because of the VST compatability. I think they feel that this gives them the flexibility they need to use whatever they think sounds best, as opposed to Reason where you have to use it’s in-house mastering/effect tools.
One of my mates is obsessed with a couple of bits, one being the Lexicon Reverbs and one being the Omnisphere. He reckons not having things as vital as them in Reason makes him steer away from it.
Personally, like I’ve said, I love Reason as a synth and drum machine and usually use it to ReWire into Ableton. However, on it’s own, as a production tool I don’t think it’s as complete and intuitive as Ableton, ProTools, Logic etc (even though it may be more progressive in creating unique sounds etc, hence why I input from it into Ableton).
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Was that a response to me? I finalise in Ableton. Just use Reason as a synth to ReWire into Ableton. Hence why I said I use Waves VST’s in Ableton (as VST’s aren’t usable in Reason).
[/quote]No but I bet they bring Vst support on version 6 whats left to add a cdr burner..
If you could add your own tools to reason what would they be..?
Mine would be vst support and some better reverbs, and Phat Bass synth, String Synth, New Effects.. Maybe a Wasp Synth yet that would be cool to see.
Or maybe you could recreate your own synth with more items abit like the thor but more update with lots more addons.
I dont like the new Dr rex player in 5, so I’ve gone back to version 4 also had a problem with the Korg drum clips on beat 1 for some reason.
I’m a big fan of reason I’ve been using since version 1, just hope they would finally add vst & vsti,dxi support maybe in version 6 who knows.
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I’d kind of agree and disagree with this.
A few of my producer/engineer friends like software like Ableton, Cubase, ProTools, Logic etc because of the VST compatability. I think they feel that this gives them the flexibility they need to use whatever they think sounds best, as opposed to Reason where you have to use it’s in-house mastering/effect tools.
One of my mates is obsessed with a couple of bits, one being the Lexicon Reverbs and one being the Omnisphere. He reckons not having things as vital as them in Reason makes him steer away from it.
Personally, like I’ve said, I love Reason as a synth and drum machine and usually use it to ReWire into Ableton. However, on it’s own, as a production tool I don’t think it’s as complete and intuitive as Ableton, ProTools, Logic etc (even though it may be more progressive in creating unique sounds etc, hence why I input from it into Ableton).
[/quote]I think it sounds better thru Ableton via rewire plus you can add some pro vsts and compressors to blast the sound out with.
Indeed and that’s the way I do it personally! 
Yeah, that’s what I was saying…I think that’s one main reason people don’t care for it…because you can’t use VSTs.
I like Dr Octo Rex simply because of the possibility to use separate REX files in one unit…that comes in handy, especially if you slice up and make your own rex files with recycle…Rex’s power is kind of limited if you aren’t slicing and making your own rex loops.
I don’t think Prop head will ever incorporate vst compatibility into their system…I think their main selling point (whether you agree with this or not is another story) is the notion that you can create whatever sound you want using everything contained within Reason, without the use, or added resource drain of VSTs…and if you know your way around, I think I would agree…
used to use it rewired into my daw…
kind of a clunky way of working though, not really worth the hassle imo.
i think the concept of reason is great and the instruments&fx sound pretty nice but the workflow is the worst of any of the daw softwares. rackmount system is bullshit, the sequencer is bullshit… fuck that shit.
It’s the sequencer and work area that puts me off using just Reason. It’s far too cumbersome and confusing, whereas the likes of Ableton is super intuitive, easy and user friendly.
Personally I love the rack element of Reason and that’s one of its major selling point for me. To be able to experiment with sound and effects and send the sound chain in whatever directiin you feel is an amazing feature for software. You can even send left channel sound of an.instrument through one chain and the right through a completely different chain.
Once you learn it all, I honestly think you’d struggle to find a better production combo than Reason ReWired into your DAW of choice, Ableton in my case.
you guys really need to try record. it addresses the 2 chief conplaints you guys have.
mixer and sequencing.
According to the latest Computer Magazine, they reaaaaally love the new Reason. I have played with Ableton but almost all people recommend either Reason or Pro Tools.