scanmo,
when i press the jog wheel, the beatmasher, peak filter, and delay turn on but rotating the wheel clockwise or counterclockwise does not affect their values. any ideas what might be causing that? thanks for the help and great work!
-scott
Hi Everyone, Hi Scamo!
Great work! thank you again!
I tested the mapping many time these last two days.
After playing a few songs it seems that the effects are not available by pressing the jogwheels with the load button On. You have to disable the jogwheels push to activate the effects without the load button activate.
The only solution to be able to use the effects with the jogwheels again is to re-import the TSI again. But the problem stays the same. After playing a few songs, the jogwheels push is not available. Most of the time the problem is on one deck, then after on two decks. I really don’t understand this change. It happens during your set without any warning.
Does anyone has the same problem?
I noticed this as well last night but only on the one deck and sometimes it would come back .
@legotist - thanks for the testing and the feedback. I had this happen to me once in about 4 hours of playing with the mapping and I couldn’t explain it either.
What you could test for me, when it happens, is go to the controller manager and you’ll see the modifyers 1 - 8 up towards the top. Modifier 1 controls the mode in Deck A (left deck) and modifier 2 controls Deck B (right deck). You’ll see this, when you press the load buttons and also with “shift + FX mode”. When you have the issue, see if when you press the load button, the modifier changes either to 1 or 0. The key is, the light in the load button should be on and at the same time the modifier should be 1 or 2. If this happens, then all should work correctly. If the modifier is backwards, meaning, it goes to 0, when you have the load button light on, then the modifier is screwed up. You can fix this by pressing “Shift+Load”. That will basically kick the modifier up or down one without changing the load button mode.
I hope that makes sense. If you use shift + load to load a song, that will also screw up the modifiers. Could that also possibly be what happened with you? I know when it happened to me that one time though, I didn’t use the load button at all. So there might still be some quirks to work out.
scamo
Sorry I missed your post. I am not sure how that can happen other than also the modifiers got screwed up. Please read the post above and try to check the modifier 1 or 2 compared to the load button light. If the load button light is on, the modifier should be 1 or 2. Of the load button light is off, the modifier should be 0.
scamo
Thanks for file. works well soemtimes then it freaks out and stopps working! 
I need a bit more precise description of what is happening to fix the issue. Try to follow these instructions, if you can.
http://www.djtechtools.com/forum/showpost.php?p=376068&postcount=24
scamo
Hi,
I seem to have issues with the following;
- It works well for a while and if i stop mixing and go back to it, only 1 of 4 set effects then work.
I have followed your rules of remembering to use the load button for the effects and taken the load button off when usiong the deck for searching and scratching.
Also when i run multi samples and change between diffrent deck, then enable the laod button for yoru set effects it seems to not work properly either.
I don’t use the load button to loads the decks i use the cue button directly for the deck i want.
I do use the shift button alot to change and delete samples so i cna add new ones during the mix.
I’ll try your posted text as furtehr instructions and see how i get on.
I appreciate the work you are doing for all us users and know it takes soem time to do. So thansk for sharing yoru work.
Regards,
Dodge
Hi Dodge,
Thanks for the feedback. I’ve only tested this on Decks A and B. If you switch the Deck to D and C, I am not sure what will happen. I’ll test and see.
I am not sure what you mean with this sentence.
Do you mean the jog only works on one of the effects?
scamo
Hi Scamo have managed to get anywhere with using different banks of effects yet.
Sorry Niel. Not yet.
I was also thinking about another effect combo. One were beatslicer is used, but at the same time, a loop of 4 beats is set. You slice up the song for 4 or 8 beats, while the loop is running, and then press the jog wheel again and you go out of the loop. The idea is to be able to extend the song with the effect and come back into the song where you started to mess with it. I am not sure beatslicer is the right effect though. What do you think?
scamo
That would be a cool feature to add
Hello everyone,
Hi Scamo, I tested your tutorial to fix the problem. It seems that the effect are available when I press shift+load. But when I use the load button again whith the browse mode the effects control is gone sometimes… As I can see the modifier position is always on 0 no matter what I do. After a while the problem is back. And there is also a news thing. When I start on a deck, the “delay” is On, but I didn’t activate it. To cancel it, i have to use shift+load, and do it again to control the effects properly.
Does any of you experience the same thing?
Hey Legotist.
Thanks for trying to help troubleshoot.
Hmmm..I’m going to have to go back to the drawing board on the load button in browse mode. I thought I could catch that, but obviously, it still screws up the modifiers.
I actually wish NI would come up with a totally better and new way of programming mappings. It could be so much cooler with a PLC like programming interface. Could you imagine this?
if set($cue1) and ($left_jog_touch or $somevariable) {
$fxmode_bank1 = "group";
$fx1_effect1= "beatmasher";
$fx1_effect1_on = 1;
$fx1_effect2= "reverb";
$fx1_effect2_on= 1;
jumpto($cue1);
cueloop_start(4); /start a loop of 4 beats
$my_beatmasher_effect_1 = 1;
}
if $my_beatmasher_effect_1 {
set($fx1_effect1_amount, 50) = value($left_jog_wheel_encoder, 100, 100); /values from jog rotation with 100% sensitivity 100% acceleration to change effect1 amount starting at 50%
set($fx1_effect2_amount, 0) = value($left_jog_wheel, 80, 40); /values from jog rotation with 80% sensitivity 40% acceleration to change effect1 amount starting at 0%
}
All NI would have to do is come up with the variables and functions and a programming interface. Not easy I know, but wow, what you could do with controllers would be almost limitless with something like that. Oh well. Guess I am stuck to dreaming about it for now.
I hope to have some time on Sunday to do some work on the mapping. My first task will be to test the “strangeness” that is happening and look more in depth at issues with pressing the load button while in browse mode. If I can get some stability going, I’ll try to add in some more effect groupings.
I will also add the echo freeze in mode 1, so that it can also be used to transition out with in that mode.
scamo
this is why midimasher lets you embed LUA code and has a big tsi and corresponding lua code to control traktor.
in lua/midimasher you’re example would be something along the lines of…
open_midi_device("traktor", "traktor", "Traktor to MM", "MM to Traktor");
open_midi_device("mycontroller", "mycontroller-type", "in-port", "out-port");
capture("mycontroller", ALL, "jog_touch_a", 0, function(d,e,v,p)
if v > 0 then
send("traktor", "fx_panel_mode_unit1_group", ON)
send("traktor", "effect_1_select_unit_1", 3)
send("traktor", "effect_1_on_unit_1", ON)
send("traktor", "effect_1_select_unit_2", 5)
send("traktor", "effect_1_on_unit_2", ON)
send("traktor", "effect_1_on_unit_2", ON)
send("traktor", "select_set_store_hotcue_1_a", ON)
send("traktor", "loop_size_set_4_a", ON)
send("traktor", "loop_active_a", ON)
set("my_beatmasher_effect_1", 1)
else
send("traktor", "effect_1_on_unit_1", OFF)
send("traktor", "effect_1_on_unit_2", OFF)
set("my_beatmasher_effect_1", 0)
end
end)
capture("mycontroller", ALL, "jog_a", 0, function(d,e,v,p)
if get("my_beatmasher_effect_1") > 0 then
send("traktor", "effect_1_amount_unit_1", v * foo * bar)
send("traktor", "effect_1_amount_unit_2", v * fu * baz)
end
end)
you can also capture() variable change events, so adding this would turn an led on/off:
pipe("_varchange", "my_beatmasher_effect_1", 0, "mycontroller", "some_led")
not that you’d need to in this example ofc - it could go at the end of that first capture() code block
edit: the file devices/mycontroller-type.lua is what maps events like “jog_touch_a” and “jog_a” onto the actual midi for that controller, which can be generated mostly by running learn.exe. this abstracts the midi away from almost all midimasher code and would also then enable the above code to be wrapped in a function that anyone could call, just passing in the name of the controller to be used and what the event names are for those 2 things etc (tho i’m trying to standardise the event naming)
Sounds cool and I’ll have a look into it. So could I then look into the mycontroller-type.lua file and see the map events for the S4, so I know what to program? What interface/ program would I need to program in midimasher? I would assume a text editor would be enough, right? Is there documentation for programming with/ for midimasher?
BTW, with the release of Ean’s S2 jog effects mapping and the announcement the S4 mapping is coming, I will most likely just buy his mapping due to my time constraints and stop working on this one (we’ll see). I enjoyed playing around with the mappings, trying to get it done right and thanks for everyone’s feedback, but why have an amateur do it, when the profis can? If the S4 mapping costs money, believe me, it is worth every penny.
scamo
you’d need to create a devices/mycontroller.lua type file for your S4 first, as i don’t have one for that controller yet. mostly a case of running learn.exe, pressing/moving a control and entering what u want to call each of them. i don’t have support for hi-res messages yet, but they’ll still work fine in pass-thru mode. i’ll implement anything like that that is needed ofc so long as i can get some kind of midi dump so i know what to look for.
no documentation yet, but quite a lot of example code. i will be writing some embedded docs soon and publishing the html parsed output somewhere on my djism.com. configs are just text so use whatever text editor you want to.
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BTW, with the release of Ean’s S2 jog effects mapping and the announcement the S4 mapping is coming, I will most likely just buy his mapping due to my time constraints and stop working on this one (we’ll see). I enjoyed playing around with the mappings, trying to get it done right and thanks for everyone’s feedback, but why have an amateur do it, when the profis can? If the S4 mapping costs money, believe me, it is worth every penny.
scamo[/quote]
yep, seems steal at only 5 bucks. i’d definately get it if i had an S2/S4 even tho i’d be more likely use my own mappings.
Hey Scamo,
I will definitly buy the S4 Mapping from DJ Techtools to show my support, but I’m sure you can add some more cool features as we suggest in this subject. I’m sure you can go over the 3 effects groupings.
Until this mapping is released, I think you can still continu your work, and many of us will give their return on your mapping, me first!
Thanks Legotist.
zestoi has also gotten me very interested in his midimasher system. So much to play with and no time. Buggers.
@zestoi - what do I need to get to start exploring programming with midimasher and the S4? Also, can you detect certain statuses in the software, like if a certain cue is already set? I’d imagine you could, but only if there is a midi-message being sent for it, correct?
On a side note: I think it is a shame DJTT have locked themselves into only 3 effect modes. With my way of using modifiers, I can map up to 8 different modes and possibly even 16 switching over to other modifiers (Not sure though. I’d have to think about that some more). I think though, without any kind of indicator of what mode you are in, 16 modes could get quite confusing plus, if you were in say mode 2 and wanted to get back to mode 1, you’d have to press “shift + fx mode” 15 times. That could be a PITA after a while. At any rate. We’ll see what happens. I think controllerism is in its baby shoes right now. A lot more is going to happen in the future.
scamo
Hi,
I’ve updated the mapping and hopefully have gotten it a bit more stable.
The new version is here: S4 - Traktor Pro 2 - Effect Jogs Extreme [Update Version 4.1]
scamo
p.s., could a mode please close this thread? Thanks!