# Same scratch all the time **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** scratching, beat\ **Created:** [May 16, 2013, 1:33pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/same-scratch-all-the-time/56881 "2013-05-16T13:33:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![The0ddSp0t](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de0a6/32.png) [@The0ddSp0t](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/The0ddSp0t)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2013, 1:33pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/same-scratch-all-the-time/56881/1 "2013-05-16T13:33:59Z")
**Same scratch all the time** So I have been scratching now for only 6 months or so and every time I throw on a different beat or sound, I always seem to use the same scratch pattern. I have tried so hard to do something different, but it always leads back to that annoying scratch. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. ---
**Author:** ![sarasin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/sarasin/32/12614_2.png) [@sarasin](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/sarasin)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2013, 3:28pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/same-scratch-all-the-time/56881/2 "2013-05-16T15:28:11Z")
Listen to someone else for inspiration. Listen to the beat you playing to and think up and new little drum pattern that will go with it. Then try and re-produce it on teh decks. I had the same issue. I just stand back for a second. Close my eyes and listen…come up with a new pattern and focus on that. DONT GET STONED FIRST! It doesnt help shit! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![haze324](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/50afbb/32.png) [@haze324](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/haze324)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2013, 4:04pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/same-scratch-all-the-time/56881/3 "2013-05-16T16:04:29Z")
I’d recommend you check out Q-Berts Scratch Univ. He has a really good lesson in Scrath Theory and cutting beats by 1/2 and 1/4 to make different sounds with the same scratch. I use maybe 2-3 scratches vayring tempo and combinations. Q goes on to discuss fairly well how to use your scratches as an instrument to create a beat or sound not to just go wiki-wiki. ---
**Author:** ![Seven\_Deep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/seven_deep/32/16154_2.png) [@Seven\_Deep](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Seven_Deep)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2013, 4:53pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/same-scratch-all-the-time/56881/4 "2013-05-16T16:53:01Z")
listen to recordings of drum corp units. no joke. You will pull lots of nice triplet and 16th rest patterns out of listening to stuff that is 100% centered on rhythmic expression. I’m still waiting to see someone translate the Swiss triplet to the decks. To add onto that, once you have a pattern you’re hearing in your head over and over and want to try on the mixer, apply the same idea I tell my drum students. “If you can say it with your mouth, you can play it with your hands.” It works, give it a try. ---
**Author:** ![dripstep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/dripstep/32/15184_2.png) [@dripstep](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/dripstep)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2013, 5:14pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/same-scratch-all-the-time/56881/5 "2013-05-16T17:14:57Z")
What scratch are you doing? Try tears. 1 forward, 2 back. 2 forward, 1 back. 3 forward, 1 back, 1 forward, 3 back. You would be amazed at the sounds you can make with different tears. Also, get off of the aaaahhhhh sample. Try fresh, try scratching 2 word samples, work on your word play, scratch a track without using your fader hand. ---
**Author:** ![The0ddSp0t](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de0a6/32.png) [@The0ddSp0t](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/The0ddSp0t)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2013, 6:19pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/same-scratch-all-the-time/56881/6 "2013-05-16T18:19:47Z")
Thanks all I am going to take all the great advice and try some new stuff tonight. I spend most of my time scratching with crabs, orbits, and chirps. ---
**Author:** ![djproben](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/djproben/32/14259_2.png) [@djproben](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/djproben)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2013, 6:26pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/same-scratch-all-the-time/56881/7 "2013-05-16T18:26:16Z")
> [@Seven\_Deep](#): > > I’m still waiting to see someone translate the Swiss triplet to the decks. Isn’t that a regular triplet with a flam on the quarter note? I suppose you could do this with chirps and a twiddle on the quarter so it’s four sounds in a triplet – di-dit dah dah, di-dit dah dah… Hmmmm… ---
**Author:** ![P4ULSON](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/p4ulson/32/12578_2.png) [@P4ULSON](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/P4ULSON)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2013, 6:30pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/same-scratch-all-the-time/56881/8 "2013-05-16T18:30:51Z")
So you got crabs, orbits, and chirps down? are you sure your not transforming? 🙂 try forwards, stabs, and chops. that’s a total of 6 scratches that can fit into any 4/4 time measure bar. 6 scratches and 2 variations of each scratch and changing the order and combinations you should have unlimited combos… what scratch do you usually start with? if you really can do all those scratches i can help you. ---
**Author:** ![P4ULSON](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/p4ulson/32/12578_2.png) [@P4ULSON](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/P4ULSON)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2013, 6:36pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/same-scratch-all-the-time/56881/9 "2013-05-16T18:36:17Z")
> [@djproben](#): > > Isn’t that a regular triplet with a flam on the quarter note? I suppose you could do this with chirps and a twiddle on the quarter so it’s four sounds in a triplet – di-dit dah dah, di-dit dah dah… Hmmmm… triplet flam is a 2 clik flare as a doted quarter and a 1 clik flare as a 1/8th note the second patter di-dit dah dah, di-dit dah dah is 2 clik orbit ---
**Author:** ![Seven\_Deep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/seven_deep/32/16154_2.png) [@Seven\_Deep](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Seven_Deep)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2013, 7:08pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/same-scratch-all-the-time/56881/10 "2013-05-16T19:08:45Z")
> [@djproben](#): > > Isn’t that a regular triplet with a flam on the quarter note? I suppose you could do this with chirps and a twiddle on the quarter so it’s four sounds in a triplet – di-dit dah dah, di-dit dah dah… Hmmmm… yup. Or better known in drummer babble as “black-oo-dah black-oo-dah” hah ---
**Author:** ![Paka\_Ono](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/paka_ono/32/15435_2.png) [@Paka\_Ono](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Paka_Ono)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2013, 9:10pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/same-scratch-all-the-time/56881/11 "2013-05-16T21:10:12Z")
> [@haze324](#): > > I’d recommend you check out Q-Berts Scratch Univ. > > He has a really good lesson in Scrath Theory and cutting beats by 1/2 and 1/4 to make different sounds with the same scratch. I use maybe 2-3 scratches vayring tempo and combinations. Q goes on to discuss fairly well how to use your scratches as an instrument to create a beat or sound not to just go wiki-wiki. And not sure if you have seen Q-bert’s DVDs but he goes in depth on all of the different types of scratches. A must see if you haven’t yet. ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/uploads/techtools/original/3X/9/c/9cc5de14d161bed6800500eb063f5c6047d66d8c.jpeg) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/uploads/techtools/original/3X/1/d/1d36db3614c194492953679cc113d224a2a038a4.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![djproben](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/djproben/32/14259_2.png) [@djproben](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/djproben)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2013, 11:19pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/same-scratch-all-the-time/56881/12 "2013-05-16T23:19:19Z")
> [@P4ULSON](#): > > triplet flam is a 2 clik flare as a doted quarter and a 1 clik flare as a 1/8th note > > the second patter di-dit dah dah, di-dit dah dah is 2 clik orbit 2 click orbit is just regular triplets isn’t it? not sure what you meant in the first line though, heh… I gotta start practicing my scratches again it’s been months. ---
**Author:** ![akswun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e5b9ba/32.png) [@akswun](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/akswun)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2013, 11:46pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/same-scratch-all-the-time/56881/13 "2013-05-16T23:46:49Z")
> [@sarasin](#): > > Listen to someone else for inspiration. > > Listen to the beat you playing to and think up and new little drum pattern that will go with it. > > Then try and re-produce it on teh decks. > > I had the same issue. > > I just stand back for a second. Close my eyes and listen…come up with a new pattern and focus on that. > > **DONT GET STONED FIRST!** > It doesnt help shit! > > 😉 Its like a double edge sword I tells ya. Sometimes I feel like I can scratch/mix even better but then I start to burnout and things just get sloppy. ---
**Author:** ![P4ULSON](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/p4ulson/32/12578_2.png) [@P4ULSON](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/P4ULSON)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2013, 6:10am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/same-scratch-all-the-time/56881/14 "2013-05-18T06:10:01Z")
> [@akswun](#): > > Its like a double edge sword I tells ya. Sometimes I feel like I can scratch/mix even better but then I start to burnout and things just get sloppy. edited cause i don’t want no one doin nothing stupid 🙂 practice responsibly people and enjoy ---
**Author:** ![djproben](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/djproben/32/14259_2.png) [@djproben](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/djproben)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2013, 7:18am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/same-scratch-all-the-time/56881/15 "2013-05-18T07:18:32Z")
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