Sherman Ate Her (Original Mix/Production w/ free d/l)

Sherman Ate Her (Original Mix/Production w/ free d/l)

Would love to know what you think!

Playing around with Zebra2 on this one.

https://soundcloud.com/imnotdedyet/sherman-ate-her

Will check it out when I get home so I can use my monitors :smiley:

Crappy earbuds will suffice so you can’t tell all the mixing mistakes I made! :wink:

Actually I spent a LOT of time mixing and re-arranging to get things playing in their own frequency ranges and stick out…

haha

Do you mixdown as you go? Do you finish the track and then go back and adjust each track? When you EQ, do you solo the channel and Eq that way or do you EQ it during the entire mix?

I think it sounds pretty polished.

There isn’t much bass weight to the track. The bass drum is punchy. I would say you have maybe eq’d a little too much 2khz area into it. It’s a tad too clicky and a bit loud in the mix. It’s got good punch to it though. At 1.36 you could have maybe added a weightier and deeper bass drum in addition. Bass line needs bringing out and more bass adding to it as BD is obscuring it. I like how everything else sits together. Gets quite wacky in the middle

Tim liked my new track

I feel honored

lol

I wish I could post it but the broad won’t make me my cover artwork :rage:

@Kwal
I do a bit of mixing as I go volume wise, maybe verb wise, etc. then at the end as well. I EQ solo for high and low passing as I go as well as at the end after the arrangement for things that aren’t showing through enough or too much and to get things to sit well together. But I’m still working out my workflow overall, so…it takes me longer than it ideally should. Would love recommendations though.

@Timbo
I’m always concerned with it being too bassy, so I probably cut out more than I need to. The kick truthfully should have been ripped out and replaced with a different sample. I tried an 808 that sounds really good on a minimal setup, but then listen in my car and have to get out of my car cause there’s so much sub bass on some of those 808s. So I did a lot, probably too much cutting on the kick to just get the punch and try to minimize the rest. And yes, there were notches at 115 and 200 for other areas to “play.” I’ve considered the whole adding another lower kick or sign wave for additional depth once things get started. Perhaps my next tune. I layered the bass to have a lower bassline kick in with the “growl” but again tried to minimize it’s effect to avoid too much bass. Finding that balance is tough when you’re just starting out.

The wackiness was intended. Was really trying to express musically a hike to the top of a 14k foot mountain called…Mt. Sherman. :wink: Basically, these hikes start out all nice and pretty (other than the fact you can’t breathe) and then you hit tree line and things get weird, almost alien-like landscape. Then you get to the top and it’s beautiful again. (my buddy said he pictured some dude playing an organ in a subway with streaking lights going by) Cheesy maybe, but I try to make my music expressive of something for the most part, so that’s my take on it. :wink:

Really appreciate the feedback guys! It’s very helpful!

I would suggest EQing while everything is playing. It may sound good solo, but what matters is how it sounds in the overall mix. Also, on a lot of sounds it’s not enough to just lower the volume on it right away, that messes up your gain staging. You want your sound to peak on it’s individual gain before lowering it. This mistake is mainly made with midi signals as samples usually come ready to go.

The bass thing is one of the reasons you get tracks mastered because it’s so hard to get it right even in top studios.

When I did mastering I used these http://pmc-speakers.com/products/professional/active/bb5-xbd

They are just over 6 feet tall and used in the main Mastering houses here. They are great at bass and you could hear exactly what was going on. Putting in hi-pass filters using -3db or -6db or -12db filters per octave around 30hz is great for controlling sub bass and making it cleaner, nipping out bits between 150hz - 250hz can be good for muddy sounding bass.. Boosting 70-80hz is good for punch on bass drums and 50-60hz for weight.

I gain stage every channel (or rack chain) before getting going or if I do any modifications to the sound. So I set the level to -6, then lower/up the volume on the synth/instrument (in the case of simpler/sampler) and get it just under -12 for the channel.

I also struggle with putting too much crap in there and am really trying to minimize after learning the hard way. With too many elements, especially elements in the same or near frequency range, it’s tough to EQ while going because you can’t really tell what effect you’re having on the sound you’re EQing. Lesson learned.

I’m a stubborn SOB. I read this stuff posted by others, then think I know better because to me it sounds good, and by the time you get to the end you just struggle to get everything playing well together. I actually removed a lot in the final mixing of this song because it wasn’t adding or was just confusing the overall song.

And Timbo, you’re right. I’ve actually been considering sending a couple songs that are worthy off to be professionally mastered and see how much more they can shine. I know I can’t “master” for shite right now. :slight_smile:

Trouble is the rooms. I have some nice speakers at home, but I wouldn’t like to have to properly sort out bass on tracks because of the room.

I’m hopping to get either Ableton Live 9 and push or Maschine Studio and maybe Logic Pro X in the not too distant future. Ableton is probably the way to go. I will most likely get a good set of headphones to work on

Ideally, one of these days, I’ll buy a house again and have a room set aside for production/djing so I can sound “studio-ize” it sound-wise.

Looking forward to hearing your stuff once you get the gear. You certainly know your shizzle. And Live 9 and Push is a helluva combo, not that Maschine and another DAW aren’t…