im not really sure how to get this across, im at work and im still drunk from last night (ugh), but ill do my best. im making a lot of assumptions which im sure may be incorrect- excuse that, my music history is not great
the first dance music with its structured bpm seems to have occured because it is easier for a DJ to mix. so dance music came about to make mixing easier, more for practicality than its actual musical value, and from there it began to evolve musically.
soā¦ now that we have reached a new age of DJing im thinking there is room for a new way to make musicā¦a brand new structure that has been freed from physical parameters such as a vinyl.
im not sure exactly what im getting at here butā¦ thoughts?
rip apart my assumptions too, nothing worse than having to guess about things because of a lack of knowledge
I wouldnt say EDM was made just becasue it was easier for a dj to mix - there are certainly some aspects about the songs that have been put there to make it easier to mix.
Over time i think we will see more use of changing tempos, we are just starting to see more of this now. However digital dj software is still really yet to catch up in this domain of mixing different tracks with changing tempos without sucking the life out of the track completely - olschool beatmatching techniques are still required for anything that doesnt have a constant tempo and wouldnt sound right by running it though Ableton and warping it.
I think there are certainly some aspects about electronic music that have been created pretty much based aound use for djs - like long intros and outros in tracks that are pretty much put there so a dj can mix in the next track, i dont think that will be going away though as we still have a ton of people using very traditional methods of mixing tracks together and these are esssential parts of the songs to them. Also I dont think the standard dj workflow wont be doing anywhere for a long time and thus will still be needed to be supported by the producers.
Maybe it had a structure bpm because it was easier to dance to. Dancing to music with inconsistant tempos probably isnāt easy (not that Iāve tried). Or not. I might be wrongā¦
im thinking like instead of having your track so that it has a beggining middle and end that are all linked somehow musically (a song), youād have a ātrackā that is no longer a song but instead a large group of similar sounding samples/buildups/slowdowns/whatever that you can pick and choose from at your own will and chuck into loopy fun
i think what i meant was that the idea of a constant bpm within a genre came as a result of DJing. i think EDM was around long before this āstructuringā. perhaps im confusing myself with how we categorise music
possibly, im not sure wat it is i cant watch the video lol
however yea im thinking like music that is made in an almost ānon-linearā fashion designed around the possiblities that our awesome software provides
From what Iām aware of jazz is difficult to dance to not because the tempo is all over the place (I find it to be quite consistent) but because a lot of it isnāt meant to be danced to. I find that the swing and funk infused jazz are the most danceable though.
The thing with jazz is that it is a really broad term when it comes to musicality and structure. There isnāt one style of jazz, and a lot of the music is very danceable (between 100 and 130bpm). It has been being danced to since its inception, really, all through the south in the late 19th and early 20th century. It developed into swing, which is really just jazz music, as far as Iām concerned, just stylized differently.
There is also a lot of classic jazz that is structure just like classical music, just with some swing on the 1/8th notes. So, technically, you can dance to classical music as wellā¦ think about that
Also, jazz is meant to be heard as songs that are journeys. These can range from 2 minutes to 12.5 (check out Channel 1 Suite and Pick Up The Pieces, two of my favorite jazz tracks), whereas DJ mixes are supposed to use lots of different songs to take the crowd on a journey when spinning live. This is, of course, a generalization.
As far as what Kaon is bringing up, I donāt think that EDM was made for DJs. I think that EDM was made for people. Disco is technically EDM and people ate that shit up for years. Boy bands, pop groups, and general dance music is made cause people like it. I think there are remixes made, and styles invented, for the DJ to be able to control the structure of the music better for a dance floor.
I donāt think structureless music will have much of a place outside of a niche market. Weāve been listening to structured music for centuries, and I think it would be very difficult to get people involved in a style where there is absolutely no structure. Even ambient noise artists use a structure. They might be the only ones that get it, but itās there, or so Iām told.
I agree with Dvls, dance music follows a certain structure not only in the way the song is laid out but also a certain rhythmic structure e.g. kick snare kick snare. Itās consistent rhythmically so you can follow it. Without that, dancers have no one to guide them.
Classical dance suites follow the same rules. Minuets, Bourres follow ONE two three, ONE two three, Jigs follow ONE two three four five six ONE etcā¦
Without this rhythmic structure, one can appreciate it only for being music and not danceable music.
