# Songs with short intro. **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 15, 2011, 11:15am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/songs-with-short-intro/32684 "2011-11-15T11:15:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![3IJ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/3ij/32/13455_2.png) [@3IJ](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/3IJ)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2011, 10:54pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/songs-with-short-intro/32684/21 "2011-11-16T22:54:18Z")
> **[Mixing Hip Hop](https://forum.djtechtools.com/showthread.php?t=28136)** > > Lo peeps, I am having difficulty with mixing Hip Hop :confused: > > Just cant seem to get it, it doesn't flow right or always sounds shite when removing the old track :S > Do you guys ever fade out or just slam everytime you remove the old track? How... ---
**Author:** ![Nicadraus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/nicadraus/32/1032_2.png) [@Nicadraus](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Nicadraus)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 10:59am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/songs-with-short-intro/32684/22 "2011-11-17T10:59:20Z")
> [@DeejayAlex](#): > > by this sentence i meaned “setting bpms so they are the same”. Still you’re not beat matching the proper way. > [@DeejayAlex](#): > > Not beatmatching by ear aint beatmatching for you ? Excuse me sir, you surely have mixed for 20 years and you’re angry about newbies who mixe as well as you do, easiest than you do, maybe you also walk on your hand because its harder.. Sorry but for me, if you can’t beat match by ear, then DJing isn’t for you. Because you just rely on the visuals (BPM) to match whatever you want to. Beat matching by ear isn’t hard at all once you learn it properly. Many people say that beat matching isn’t the only thing in DJing. It’s true. But **it is the very essential skill** in DJing. It’s the very basic and first step to learning how to mix. Now if you’re too lazy to learn that, then call it quits. Crowd reading, good track selection, being creative, EQing, using effects, scratching, etc, all these are best performed with proper beat matching by EAR. ---
**Author:** ![MrPopinjay](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/mrpopinjay/32/14471_2.png) [@MrPopinjay](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/MrPopinjay)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 11:03am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/songs-with-short-intro/32684/23 "2011-11-17T11:03:08Z")
Not entirely sure I agree with you but I do think it’s good to start by learning to beat match since it really forces you to listen to your tunes and helps you develop the ear for a good mix. I also think you should steer clear of effects for quite a while as they can distract you from more important basics such as EQing, etc. ---
**Author:** ![DeejayAlex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/94ad74/32.png) [@DeejayAlex](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/DeejayAlex)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 6:07pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/songs-with-short-intro/32684/24 "2011-11-17T18:07:26Z")
> [@3IJ](#): > > [Mixing Hip Hop](http://www.djtechtools.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28136) it won’t solve my “problem” hip hop is not like electronic music, most of tracks (I say “most of”) are structured like _Boom-Boom-Boom-Boom_ while one hip hop track could be like _Boom-Clap-Clap-Boom_ and another like \*Clap-Boom-Clap-0" track selection got to be smarter. @MrPopinjay : I often use EQ to make a transition, but not properly because Track A has “more bass” than track B. @Nicadraus : I get what you mean, like “I wanna learn butterfly stroke but I don’t know how to breathe when I swim” ---
**Author:** ![DeejayAlex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/94ad74/32.png) [@DeejayAlex](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/DeejayAlex)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 6:18pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/songs-with-short-intro/32684/25 "2011-11-17T18:18:23Z")
> [@DJ\_SB](#): > > You could do something like this: [http://www51.zippyshare.com/v/36610205/file.html](http://www51.zippyshare.com/v/36610205/file.html) > One song is pretty much double the bpm of the other. > > ps: Don’t make fun of my scratching I play house. not double, kicks are all the same with one, while other has a strong Kick to start the bar. The transition is good. Listen to my mix (it’s long) [https://soundcloud.com/lordmagnum/pa-calentar-la-noche-latino](https://soundcloud.com/lordmagnum/pa-calentar-la-noche-latino) ---
**Author:** ![Kepik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/kepik/32/12627_2.png) [@Kepik](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Kepik)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 7:04pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/songs-with-short-intro/32684/26 "2011-11-17T19:04:48Z")
The incoming song has your typical 8 bar intro, except there’s singing and talking going on. It’s prevalent in hip-hop, and that could lead to vocals clashing vocals if you were to try mix it in. #1 I’d simply just press pause/stop on the CDJ (make sure your brake setting mimics how a turntable stops) on the outgoing song and drop the incoming song in. If you could scratch it in, that’ll be better. #2 Another method is to echo out the outgoing and just like again play the incoming from the start. #3 If you could scratch that last 1/2 beat part of the incoming song (around :19), then drop it on the last 1/2 beat of the chorus of the outgoing song. #4 Lastly get an instrumental and make your own 8 bar intro and have the song start on :20 when the beat drops There’s a lot more flexibility when spinning non-EDM music. ---
**Author:** ![DJ\_SB](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/dj_sb/32/12848_2.png) [@DJ\_SB](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/DJ_SB)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 7:16pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/songs-with-short-intro/32684/27 "2011-11-17T19:16:53Z")
> [@DeejayAlex](#): > > not double, kicks are all the same with one, while other has a strong Kick to start the bar. > > The transition is good. > > Listen to my mix (it’s long) > > [SoundCloud - Hear the world’s sounds](https://soundcloud.com/lordmagnum/pa-calentar-la-noche-latino) What? I said the **BPM** is almost double, If I remember right it was like 195 and 95 or something. ---
**Author:** ![3IJ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/3ij/32/13455_2.png) [@3IJ](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/3IJ)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 9:10pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/songs-with-short-intro/32684/28 "2011-11-17T21:10:46Z")
> [@DeejayAlex](#): > > it won’t solve my “problem” hip hop is not like electronic music, then why did you post two hip hop songs and ask how to mix them? BYE ---
**Author:** ![DeejayAlex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/94ad74/32.png) [@DeejayAlex](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/DeejayAlex)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 12:10pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/songs-with-short-intro/32684/29 "2011-11-18T12:10:04Z")
> [@3IJ](#): > > then why did you post two hip hop songs and ask how to mix them? > > BYE beat structure of a reggaeton song is closer to Electronic music than hip-hop. ---
**Author:** ![DeejayAlex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/94ad74/32.png) [@DeejayAlex](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/DeejayAlex)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 12:14pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/songs-with-short-intro/32684/30 "2011-11-18T12:14:11Z")
> [@Kepik](#): > > The incoming song has your typical 8 bar intro, except there’s singing and talking going on. It’s prevalent in hip-hop, and that could lead to vocals clashing vocals if you were to try mix it in. > > #1 I’d simply just press pause/stop on the CDJ (make sure your brake setting mimics how a turntable stops) on the outgoing song and drop the incoming song in. If you could scratch it in, that’ll be better. > > #2 Another method is to echo out the outgoing and just like again play the incoming from the start. > > #3 If you could scratch that last 1/2 beat part of the incoming song (around :19), then drop it on the last 1/2 beat of the chorus of the outgoing song. > > #4 Lastly get an instrumental and make your own 8 bar intro and have the song start on :20 when the beat drops > > There’s a lot more flexibility when spinning non-EDM music. I’ve already created some intros, your trick is good but always cutting is boring, you can mix with two vocals, using EQs, even if we still hear a bit of vocal of the incoming track it’s not as ugly as letting two songs play. ---
**Author:** ![sarasin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/sarasin/32/12614_2.png) [@sarasin](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/sarasin)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 1:08pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/songs-with-short-intro/32684/31 "2011-11-18T13:08:19Z")
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