# The DB:4 is OUT **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 29, 2010, 6:25pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/the-db-4-is-out/14529 "2010-09-29T18:25:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Ed\_Paris](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/ed_paris/32/13850_2.png) [@Ed\_Paris](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Ed_Paris)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 8:15pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/the-db-4-is-out/14529/21 "2010-09-29T20:15:44Z")
a&h db4=pioneer djm 2000=overpriced shit! i mean i have my korg km 402 and i payed 390€ for it and it gives me all the features i need…what do i need a mixer that big with integrated audio interface when i won´t be carrying it to a club… my 2 cent´s ---
**Author:** ![Redlight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/redlight/32/12360_2.png) [@Redlight](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Redlight)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 8:24pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/the-db-4-is-out/14529/22 "2010-09-29T20:24:47Z")
> [@Karlos\_Santos](#): > > Where does it say Serato soundcard, i cant find it. My eyes are very sore though (true). > > Anyone else underwhelmed. I mean, yeah it will be awesome cus A&H stuff is but i think we all expected a little more didnt we? I thought I seen Serato mentioned but after I reread it actually says Stereo. _From website: A built-in, high quality (24-bit / 96kHz), multi-channel, fully patchable USB2 soundcard allows replay and recording from audio software for 4 stereo sends and 4 stereo returns._ I read 4 **serato** sends and 4 **serato** returns. hahaha. Me not read very well. Im an idiot. ---
**Author:** ![djproben](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/djproben/32/14259_2.png) [@djproben](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/djproben)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 8:29pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/the-db-4-is-out/14529/23 "2010-09-29T20:29:37Z")
> [@Karlos\_Santos](#): > > Where does it say Serato soundcard, i cant find it. My eyes are very sore though (true). > > Anyone else underwhelmed. I mean, yeah it will be awesome cus A&H stuff is but i think we all expected a little more didnt we? It’s not just your eyes; it’s a blurry picture. And yeah we all expected more because of their teaser advertising; this is just yet another giant overpriced mixer with more effects built into the mixer. Not a bad thing to add to the market but hardly the revolution they wanted us to expect. I’m guessing this is aimed more at clubs who are buying CDJ-2000s than at DVS users since most DVS users have the effects they like built into software. I like some of the options here – the looping sounds nice in particular (4 bars sampled even if you start with a 1/16 loop), but I don’t really want or need that many conflicting effects options. I shudder to think of the trainwrecks that will occur while I’m trying to remember whether a particular effect was turned on in traktor or on the mixer. I’m also kind of disappointed with how cluttered it is and how some of the A+H options I like (e.g. 4 band EQ) are missing. No doubt the sound card and mixer are top notch, A+H is known for quality, and they charge for it too. So, yet another expensive high quality 4 channel mixer is now on the market – yawn. ---
**Author:** ![Sanderbongertman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/sanderbongertman/32/14156_2.png) [@Sanderbongertman](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Sanderbongertman)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 8:58pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/the-db-4-is-out/14529/24 "2010-09-29T20:58:59Z")
I hope they don’t ditch the 92 for this one. ---
**Author:** ![Nephew](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/nephew/32/15077_2.png) [@Nephew](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Nephew)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 9:03pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/the-db-4-is-out/14529/25 "2010-09-29T21:03:34Z")
Is there even an EQ section? Didn’t notice one when I was looking at it ---
**Author:** ![Sanderbongertman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/sanderbongertman/32/14156_2.png) [@Sanderbongertman](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Sanderbongertman)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 9:07pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/the-db-4-is-out/14529/26 "2010-09-29T21:07:06Z")
weird. when you just enter their website at the home page there is no way to find back the article. is this even real? ---
**Author:** ![Redlight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/redlight/32/12360_2.png) [@Redlight](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Redlight)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 9:13pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/the-db-4-is-out/14529/27 "2010-09-29T21:13:52Z")
One thing I find interesting is the EQ section. I have not seen EQ knobs offset like that before. Its not to big of a deal but if you have meat hooks for hands (like me) it will make doing those dramatic eq sweeps a lil easier. ---
**Author:** ![tekki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/tekki/32/12829_2.png) [@tekki](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/tekki)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 9:25pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/the-db-4-is-out/14529/28 "2010-09-29T21:25:59Z")
> [@Sanderbongertman](#): > > I hope they don’t ditch the 92 for this one. Nah man… This has 3 EQs,92 has 4… Ain’t gonna happen. ---
**Author:** ![ANok](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/anok/32/12378_2.png) [@ANok](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/ANok)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 9:47pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/the-db-4-is-out/14529/29 "2010-09-29T21:47:04Z")
i’ve always liked the clean and simple layout of A&H mixers but this one is just too cluttered..i would love to see how the loopers and effects work. It seems like a good option for non dvs users as said before. ---
**Author:** ![Karlos\_Santos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/karlos_santos/32/13263_2.png) [@Karlos\_Santos](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Karlos_Santos)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 9:55pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/the-db-4-is-out/14529/30 "2010-09-29T21:55:19Z")
> [@ANok](#): > > i’ve always liked the clean and simple layout of A&H mixers but this one is just too cluttered..i would love to see how the loopers and effects work. It seems like a good option for non dvs users as said before. Massive point.^^^ I used a A&H 62 for 5 years and it’s layout and unclutttedness (?) was something I loved. This DB4 not so much. ---
**Author:** ![Neurotique](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/neurotique/32/14646_2.png) [@Neurotique](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Neurotique)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 10:27pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/the-db-4-is-out/14529/31 "2010-09-29T22:27:29Z")
Layout is just not what I would expect from A&H. Very cluttered… shame really, because I bet it sounds wonderful. ---
**Author:** ![midifidler](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/midifidler/32/14143_2.png) [@midifidler](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/midifidler)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 11:17pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/the-db-4-is-out/14529/32 "2010-09-29T23:17:04Z")
Interesting to finally see it, I was also expecting a 4 channel serato mixer, so even after reading the link I still had it in my head that it supported Serato. No mention of that in the specs and no serato branding makes me think this is def not a serato mixer. And why would you have onboard looping etc when designing a DVS mixer? TBH I dont find this that cluttered (for A&H), there is def a lot going on on this mixer, but all the important controls are really chunky. EQ options are interesting, the staggered placement would take a bit of getting used to. Im not really sure who they are aiming at with this product, anybody who is that into looping is using a digital setup by now, from a club owners perspective this doesnt jump out as being worth the extra cash on a 62, and it will no doubt be well out of the price range of bedroom DJ’s. Still pwns the zero4 though… ---
**Author:** ![bigbeatzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f19dbf/32.png) [@bigbeatzz](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/bigbeatzz)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 11:39pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/the-db-4-is-out/14529/33 "2010-09-29T23:39:09Z")
You know things are getting wacky when allen and Heath bites off a chunk of behringers style…ddm 4000 done right? It’s also very LOL that it has an effect button called OMG. ---
**Author:** ![space\_monkey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/space_monkey/32/14148_2.png) [@space\_monkey](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/space_monkey)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 11:56pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/the-db-4-is-out/14529/34 "2010-09-29T23:56:01Z")
> [@bigbeatzz](#): > > It’s also very LOL that it has an effect button called OMG. Hope it’s not more like LOL. I like the design but meh…not in the market for a new mixer anytime soon ---
**Author:** ![xel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/8e7dd6/32.png) [@xel](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/xel)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2010, 12:09am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/the-db-4-is-out/14529/35 "2010-09-30T00:09:19Z")
**Hi RES Images . . .** Here you can see High Res Images of this $$$ CDJ-DJ’ing Style Mixer $$$ [http://www.allen-heath.co.uk/AHImages/XoneDB4\_1200\_top.jpg](http://www.allen-heath.co.uk/AHImages/XoneDB4_1200_top.jpg) [http://www.allen-heath.co.uk/AHImages/XoneDB4\_1200.jpg](http://www.allen-heath.co.uk/AHImages/XoneDB4_1200.jpg) Again,… I was hoping to see some Xone:92 Redesigned product to fit DVS Needs in a nawaday’s digital world ! but . . . Cheers ! ---
**Author:** ![midifidler](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/midifidler/32/14143_2.png) [@midifidler](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/midifidler)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2010, 12:38am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/the-db-4-is-out/14529/36 "2010-09-30T00:38:49Z")
Yup a 62 with a 4 chan serato box inside with a few extra midi controls would have been win! ---
**Author:** ![lethal\_pizzle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/lethal_pizzle/32/11770_2.png) [@lethal\_pizzle](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/lethal_pizzle)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2010, 4:43am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/the-db-4-is-out/14529/37 "2010-09-30T04:43:42Z")
I call meh ---
**Author:** ![DJ\_Nada](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5daacb/32.png) [@DJ\_Nada](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/DJ_Nada)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2010, 5:29am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/the-db-4-is-out/14529/38 "2010-09-30T05:29:46Z")
Very nice mixer, I was hoping for something a little more however. TSP or Serato tie-in would have been brilliant. Couldn’t you just map this to Traktor? ---
**Author:** ![canon1nd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@canon1nd](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/canon1nd)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2010, 7:06am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/the-db-4-is-out/14529/39 "2010-09-30T07:06:47Z")
I think It’s design for TT & CDJ Player or something that not Expect on use Computer It’s have STD.DJ Software function but they built-in it DB4 Hmmm. It can grab 4 bar loops per Channel…Hmmm…And QuadFX core …May be nest year You’ll see “DJ Mixer built in MacOS” LoL ---
**Author:** ![astromech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/astromech/32/37_2.png) [@astromech](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/astromech)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2010, 7:22am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/the-db-4-is-out/14529/40 "2010-09-30T07:22:14Z")
> [@](#): > > a&h db4=pioneer djm 2000=overpriced shit! > i mean i have my korg km 402 and i payed 390€ for it and it gives me all the features i need…what do i need a mixer that big with integrated audio interface when i won´t be carrying it to a club… > my 2 cent´s You really can’t compare. I have a 402 and compared to my friend’s Xone:32, it is atrocious. I’m disappointed that A&H thought they needed to move away from analogue. Their mixers have always sounded beautiful. [Previous page](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/the-db-4-is-out/14529.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/the-db-4-is-out/14529.md?page=3)