# The Kontrol S1/S8 project \[build log\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Hardware: Controllers, Mods and Gear\ **Tags:** diy, build-log, kontrol-s8, mod, kontrol-s1\ **Created:** [January 18, 2020, 10:02am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/the-kontrol-s1-s8-project-build-log/78164 "2020-01-18T10:02:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![padi\_04](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/padi_04/32/56291_2.png) [@padi\_04](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/padi_04)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2020, 1:20pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/the-kontrol-s1-s8-project-build-log/78164/21 "2020-02-06T13:20:22Z")
That’s awesome! ---
**Author:** ![Patch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/patch/32/118_2.png) [@Patch](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Patch)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2020, 8:30pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/the-kontrol-s1-s8-project-build-log/78164/22 "2020-02-06T20:30:30Z")
> [@""DJDoubleYou""](#): > > Yep, just a standard USB B female port on the back. They might even have audio out (16 bit, 44.1 kHz) and will also feature a **monochrome display with track title, time, progress etc.** Say what now??? Seriously - you better start snapping these up for modding and selling. You won’t be able to make 'em fast enough once word gets out… ---
**Author:** ![the\_bastet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/the_bastet/32/56295_2.png) [@the\_bastet](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/the_bastet)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2020, 9:04pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/the-kontrol-s1-s8-project-build-log/78164/23 "2020-02-06T21:04:36Z")
> [@Patch](#): > > Say what now??? > > Seriously - you better start snapping these up for modding and selling. You won’t be able to make 'em fast enough once word gets out… This. I already want a pair. :-p ---
**Author:** ![DJDoubleYou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/djdoubleyou/32/12496_2.png) [@DJDoubleYou](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/DJDoubleYou)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2020, 9:57pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/the-kontrol-s1-s8-project-build-log/78164/24 "2020-02-06T21:57:40Z")
Thanks for the positive words guys! I might set up a page where you can put down a fully refundable deposit to “reserve a place in line”. I won’t be back in The Netherlands until April though so they won’t ship until the end of April. I just don’t want to make this too commercial. I would love cranking out a dozen of these things though and the volume would justify adding cooler things to the project. ---
**Author:** ![the\_bastet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/the_bastet/32/56295_2.png) [@the\_bastet](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/the_bastet)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2020, 1:17pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/the-kontrol-s1-s8-project-build-log/78164/25 "2020-02-07T13:17:46Z")
> [@DJDoubleYou](#): > > Thanks for the positive words guys! > > I might set up a page where you can put down a fully refundable deposit to “reserve a place in line”. I won’t be back in The Netherlands until April though so they won’t ship until the end of April. I just don’t want to make this too commercial. I would love cranking out a dozen of these things though and the volume would justify adding cooler things to the project. A Kickstarter would work well for this kind of project. a 3 month timeline is about right for custom gear anyway, so you are already ahead of the curve. ---
**Author:** ![DJDoubleYou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/djdoubleyou/32/12496_2.png) [@DJDoubleYou](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/DJDoubleYou)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2020, 1:37pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/the-kontrol-s1-s8-project-build-log/78164/26 "2020-02-07T13:37:27Z")
> [@the\_bastet](#): > > A Kickstarter would work well for this kind of project. a 3 month timeline is about right for custom gear anyway, so you are already ahead of the curve. I’m a bit afraid of NI coming after me if I start a Kickstarter, anyone know of any projects like this? Modding products from companies to create a product that looks and feels exactly like their brand? ---
**Author:** ![Patch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/patch/32/118_2.png) [@Patch](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Patch)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2020, 6:17pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/the-kontrol-s1-s8-project-build-log/78164/27 "2020-02-07T18:17:13Z")
I’ve got an S2 MK1 with your name all over it. I can’t see the OEM coming after you. As long as you don’t add anything to it (NI/Traktor stickers, for example) you’re not doing anything that they could come after you for. ---
**Author:** ![DJDoubleYou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/djdoubleyou/32/12496_2.png) [@DJDoubleYou](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/DJDoubleYou)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2020, 4:05pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/the-kontrol-s1-s8-project-build-log/78164/28 "2020-02-09T16:05:50Z")
Made a 'lil mockup of the OLED display: ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/uploads/techtools/original/3X/9/f/9f9de149a6f4266cd4a55ff28fa5ee325554cf62.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Stewe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/stewe/32/14607_2.png) [@Stewe](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Stewe)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2020, 4:23pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/the-kontrol-s1-s8-project-build-log/78164/29 "2020-02-09T16:23:33Z")
You should definitely check with NI first. They didn’t allow me to use their logo on my Traktor mapping service site so I went with arcade button instead of using Traktor logo. ![TraktorMappingService-logo-v5.jpg](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/uploads/techtools/original/3X/b/f/bfddabb22603557cf23806e595916f60bc321ccd.jpeg) ![TraktorMappingService-logo-v1.jpg](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/uploads/techtools/original/3X/6/4/64e84d57ddf2140d9ada51eaf2e2f01f848cefac.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![DJDoubleYou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/djdoubleyou/32/12496_2.png) [@DJDoubleYou](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/DJDoubleYou)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2020, 4:53pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/the-kontrol-s1-s8-project-build-log/78164/30 "2020-02-09T16:53:14Z")
> [@Stewe](#): > > You should definitely check with NI first. They didn’t allow me to use their logo on my Traktor mapping service site so I went with arcade button instead of using Traktor logo. > > ![TraktorMappingService-logo-v5.jpg](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/uploads/techtools/original/3X/b/f/bfddabb22603557cf23806e595916f60bc321ccd.jpeg) > > ![TraktorMappingService-logo-v1.jpg](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/uploads/techtools/original/3X/6/4/64e84d57ddf2140d9ada51eaf2e2f01f848cefac.jpeg) Dope logo btw but yhea, suppose someone would start selling half-sized iPhones and started calling them iPhone 11,5’s that would probably not go too well. We’ll find out I guess, for now nothing wrong with sawing things in half that you own yourself! ---
**Author:** ![the\_bastet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/the_bastet/32/56295_2.png) [@the\_bastet](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/the_bastet)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 2:10am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/the-kontrol-s1-s8-project-build-log/78164/31 "2020-02-10T02:10:05Z")
> [@DJDoubleYou](#): > > Made a 'lil mockup of the OLED display: > > ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/uploads/techtools/original/3X/9/f/9f9de149a6f4266cd4a55ff28fa5ee325554cf62.jpeg) Woah! That looks dope! ---
**Author:** ![Stewe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/stewe/32/14607_2.png) [@Stewe](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Stewe)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 3:41pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/the-kontrol-s1-s8-project-build-log/78164/32 "2020-02-10T15:41:12Z")
Front page, nice man! > **[Kontrol S1: DJDoubleYou sawed a deck off a Kontrol S4 to make a new DIY...](https://djtechtools.com/2020/02/09/kontrol-s1-djdoubleyou-sawed-a-deck-off-a-kontrol-s4-to-make-a-new-diy-controller/?fbclid=IwAR2o9e5KQgTZf8gAYTo7IrfGGAgzX0XbOgYwBd5-fAYIg4z6Y4H4uf-Ra08)** > > We've heard it for years: when will Native Instruments make a single deck DJ controller? What if they made a ---
**Author:** ![oddworld\_audio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/85e7bf/32.png) [@oddworld\_audio](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/oddworld_audio)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 4:38pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/the-kontrol-s1-s8-project-build-log/78164/33 "2020-02-10T16:38:01Z")
Awesome, just awesome ---
**Author:** ![Kalo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/6bbea6/32.png) [@Kalo](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Kalo)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 6:28pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/the-kontrol-s1-s8-project-build-log/78164/34 "2020-02-11T18:28:16Z")
damn cool project .. my compliment man 👍 .. and so nice sseing the post on DJTT front page (the reason i found too), so keep me posted on progress. I started similar idea some time ago, but gave up as i tried to make a s1mk2 .. unfortunatly this one has a single pcb (not splitted as the mk1) … see here: ![S4mk2 Inside.jpg](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/uploads/techtools/original/3X/b/3/b3812eb3d3b5e2d91b1f870373da5befa15bb10d.jpeg) I needed the mk2 because TDJ (ios, which does not support mk1) wanted to keep all logic as it is, using as single deck unit for TDJ (no Arduino) .. cut away the mixer, soundcard and FX panel only (only keep the controls cue/play/enc etc working) as a portable device for TDJ (preparing/gridding songs). may not be possible anyhow. So .. big compliment !! nice work also compliment to the nice info on github: [KontrolS1/README.md at master · willwillems/KontrolS1 · GitHub](https://github.com/NickolasBoyer/KontrolS1/blob/master/README.md) 👍 ---
**Author:** ![DJDoubleYou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/djdoubleyou/32/12496_2.png) [@DJDoubleYou](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/DJDoubleYou)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 7:25pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/the-kontrol-s1-s8-project-build-log/78164/35 "2020-02-11T19:25:43Z")
> [@Stewe](#): > > Front page, nice man! > > [Kontrol S1: DJDoubleYou sawed a deck off a Kontrol S4 to make a new DIY controller - DJ TechTools](https://djtechtools.com/2020/02/09/kontrol-s1-djdoubleyou-sawed-a-deck-off-a-kontrol-s4-to-make-a-new-diy-controller/?fbclid=IwAR2o9e5KQgTZf8gAYTo7IrfGGAgzX0XbOgYwBd5-fAYIg4z6Y4H4uf-Ra08) Super cool! > [@oddworld\_audio](#): > > Awesome, just awesome Tnx! > [@Kalo](#): > > damn cool project .. my compliment man 👍 .. and so nice sseing the post on DJTT front page (the reason i found too), so keep me posted on progress. > > I started similar idea some time ago, but gave up as i tried to make a s1mk2 .. unfortunatly this one has a single pcb (not splitted as the mk1) … see here: > > ![S4mk2 Inside.jpg](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/uploads/techtools/original/3X/b/3/b3812eb3d3b5e2d91b1f870373da5befa15bb10d.jpeg) > > I needed the mk2 because TDJ (ios, which does not support mk1) wanted to keep all logic as it is, using as single deck unit for TDJ (no Arduino) .. cut away the mixer, soundcard and FX panel only (only keep the controls cue/play/enc etc working) as a portable device for TDJ (preparing/gridding songs). may not be possible anyhow. > > So .. big compliment !! nice work > > also compliment to the nice info on github: [KontrolS1/README.md at master · willwillems/KontrolS1 · GitHub](https://github.com/NickolasBoyer/KontrolS1/blob/master/README.md) > > 👍 Cool! Yes the S2’s unfortunately are not as easily modded, pretty happy they went for the panel design with the S4! ---
**Author:** ![Kalo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/6bbea6/32.png) [@Kalo](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Kalo)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 7:39pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/the-kontrol-s1-s8-project-build-log/78164/36 "2020-02-11T19:39:24Z")
I tried S4mk2, not S2 .. but i got your point ..unfortunatly they moved to a single pcb 😞, but your project is cool, love it, keep on going ! .. 👍 What i did not get in total: do you plan to mount a complete Arduino/Teensy with own sketch (midi native) .. or how to connect at end ? ---
**Author:** ![DJDoubleYou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/djdoubleyou/32/12496_2.png) [@DJDoubleYou](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/DJDoubleYou)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 7:43pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/the-kontrol-s1-s8-project-build-log/78164/37 "2020-02-11T19:43:05Z")
> [@Kalo](#): > > I tried S4mk2, not S2 .. but i got your point ..unfortunatly they moved to a single pcb 😞, but your project is cool, love it, keep on going ! .. do you plan to build a complete Arduino with own sketch (midi) or how to connct your mod if ready ? Oh damn, thanks for clearing that up! I had no idea I already had a look at an S2 and it seemed similar, well that’s a bummer, was planning on converting some MK2’s too. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Kalo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/6bbea6/32.png) [@Kalo](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Kalo)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 7:48pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/the-kontrol-s1-s8-project-build-log/78164/38 "2020-02-11T19:48:40Z")
[quote=“DJDoubleYou, post:37, topic:78164, username:DJDoubleYou”] Oh damn, thanks for clearing that up! I had no idea I already had a look at an S2 and it seemed similar, well that’s a bummer, was planning on converting some MK2’s too. Thanks! [/quote]👍 ---
**Author:** ![Archies\_bald](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/archies_bald/32/15065_2.png) [@Archies\_bald](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Archies_bald)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 10:05pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/the-kontrol-s1-s8-project-build-log/78164/39 "2020-02-11T22:05:11Z")
This is all kinds of awesome. It’s the type of thing I would have tried years ago, but with EKS XP’s. They were fantastic for modding - cheap, lots of buttons, a soundcard and a jog wheel. There was little need to add a Arduino or anything like that, you just soldered cables on the pcb and added a case. Ahh, the good old days… ---
**Author:** ![Kalo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/6bbea6/32.png) [@Kalo](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Kalo)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 8:39am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/the-kontrol-s1-s8-project-build-log/78164/40 "2020-02-12T08:39:06Z")
> [@Archies\_bald](#): > > This is all kinds of awesome. > > It’s the type of thing I would have tried years ago, but with EKS XP’s. They were fantastic for modding - cheap, lots of buttons, a soundcard and a jog wheel. There was little need to add a Arduino or anything like that, you just soldered cables on the pcb and added a case. Ahh, the good old days… I am also not sure about, I think DJDoubleYou will add an Arduino too, and make the whole logic himself, right ? [Previous page](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/the-kontrol-s1-s8-project-build-log/78164.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/the-kontrol-s1-s8-project-build-log/78164.md?page=3)