So I just read and saw the video about serato dj 1.5 and i thought to myself this is great news for serato users it well be more like traktor and that a good thing. But then i thought what and then the little man (like myself) I only have been djing for a year or so i started with traktor and a s2 and i sold that and brought a z2 two turntables and been have fun learning and owning the craft but i only paid about 600 for my mixer and 400 for each turntable thats 1400 and i say i made my money back doing party so its cool. I never used serato but always wanted to use it but when i learned that the rane 62 is 2000 and now the 57 cant use serato dj1.5 i think in my head they just killed the little guy nobody really what to pay 2500 for a mixer and the not make thousands dollars a year for this stuff most of us that buy the stuff have real job and this is a side job.I cant understand why there is no intro price to use serato ur going be paying a hell of alot just to use serato so i guess i’ll stick with traktor no big thing i like traktor i just wanted to know how use serato (just my thoughts) p.s. the rane sl2 is 500 and for 399 u get traktor s2 i just convicted serato is high for no reason
I completely disagree with you. I don’t think it killed the little man at all. There are many options to use Serato without buying a Rane mixer. Did Pioneer kill the little man because thier biggest and baddest CDJ’s are $1500+ each? If you don’t want to pay the money for a Rane, than don’t buy one. Simple. Find a solution that works best for you, within the budget you set for yourself.
There is a give and take with all the software/hardware combinations. I think that applies to pretty much anything you purchase in life.
Not understanding…I read the release…how again is this “screwing the little guy”? You can still use controllers with serato Dj… I used serato Dj btw and was unimpressed (and I was seriously looking forward to giving it a go, so if anything I had positive expectations going in).
The layout was bland, navigating through it was OK but not really any easier than traktor. Only thing I can think of that it has that traktor doesn’t is those god awful vertical wave forms and direct iTunes integration…oh and smart crates…meh.
Trying to use those waveforms to beatmatch was literally the worst thing I had ever experienced. So much so that I immediately collapsed the wave form view to the condensed track overview and beat matched by ear in my headphones (I was using the wave forms due to a lack of booth monitors). The waveforms in traktor are MUCH higher resolution and the phase meter is far more intuitive.
Were you thinking of switching to serato with dvs? Why? “Learning to use serato” is just using it…once…it’s no different than Traktor and as I said, really overall unimpressive.
aye, I too think traktor is far ahead. Traktor is just as good and cheaper, but for some reason many dj’s and venues consider serato the “industry standard”, probably because it was reliable and didn’t have a sync button. It’s also the reason why I’d like to get my hands on a serato box and get familiar with serato just in case someone bitches at me for using traktor.
Theres not much different between the two besides that traktor you can map whatever you want. serato is native so if they happen to forget your mapping in the update(like 1.3) then you have to wait till they make another update.
So cares about the bitching?? If the dancefloor is full and people are having a good time it shouldn’t matter- sync or no sync
My weekly Friday night residency I manually beat match when I start the night of playin hip hop etc then wen I take it to tach house etc i use sync and add my Maschine in step sequencer mode… NO ONE cares or even notices that I’m doing it differently
I said Serato scratch live DIDN’T have a sync button, it’s past tense. Ofc serato dj now has sync.
You are absolutely right on that and I agree with you, but some venue owners think otherwise. Is such a venue worth playing at? It’s up to you to decide. Me, I just want to be able to take any gig and not turn one down just because I own the wrong software, I can dj on anything anyways, turntables, CDJs, controllers, even potatoes.
[QUOTE=despo;648184]I just want to be able to take any gig and not turn one down just because I own the wrong software, I can dj on anything anyways, turntables, CDJs, controllers, even potatoes
This what the whole debate is over i wrote this because this is what matter using both software and hardware and not losing any money and searto just made it very expenses to use the hardware for serato
Not to mention I’ve only seen one person using Serato in the past 2 years here; everyone else uses Traktor. As far as I’m concerned, Traktor is the industry standard now unless you’re a turntablist, and even then it’s 50/50.
You can tell this is Traktor ran forum…there is so much misinformation about Serato.
To answer the OP — you can buy a used SL2 or SL3 for a couple hundred bucks. I think I got my SL3 for 400 bucks and my DJM 800 for about 800, add an X1 for all my midi needs and I’m set using Serato, and a DJM mixer for about 1400 bucks.
Rane mixers are awesome machines, but honestly I’d rather have a soundcard to use with any mixer because I cant take my mixer with me to the club. There’s always a DJM there waiting for me.
Guess I’ll add some fuel…in Miami, I’ve personally never seen a local DJ using Traktor. Sure headliners (Dubfire, Hawtin, etc) are seen using it, but local DJ’s I don’t know of one. Perhaps guys that play in the more underground Techy scene? But normally around here it’s always Serato or CDJ’s/Rekordbox.
In the UK any DJ i’ve more recently was using Traktor. When I bought an SL1 box in 2006/7 I was the only person in my city using Serato at that time. Since then though its all Traktor.
And as far as I know this forum is RAN by Traktor (or Native Instruments if you want to be technically correct). It just so happens that this is where the Traktor heads gather.
Traktor is a hell of a lot more prolific sheerly because its a $70 program that functions with everything from homebrew MIDI circuits to integrated timecode solutions. Traktor’s market share comes from appealing to people looking for absolute bargain bin solutions, with upgrade paths to arguably professionally serviceable solutions.
Tons upon tons of people don’t exactly “prefer” Traktor over Serato, they’ve just never known anything else, because they search for and build upon disposable cheap options and gimmicks, and Traktor is the software that facilitates that. Meanwhile, Serato’s base level integration and software design carries a professional price tag, and the quality bar of Serato approved hardware is typically much higher than the average bedroom DJ is willing to pay. Thus, the low end typically ends up invested and attached to NI solutions, without ever being able to compare software to any degree.
Tbh, my issue with Serato is the complete and utter lack of features. Their ONLY standout feature is the parallel waveforms, and if you need that you can just use Mixxx/MVC, which doesn’t tie you down to specific hardware.
