The Nicer

The Nicer

This mapping helps to create slicer-like effects using Traktor + computer keyboard.

The Nicer Mk2

This version of the mapping uses loops instead of Beatmasher to create the effect.
Watch the vid and download from the mapping forum.

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Nice one! So you have figured adding a deck duplicate to create a slicer effect - I also have a slicer effect in works that takes advantage of a secondary deck to create this kind of slicer but without the hotcues, instead I’m using the beatjumps.

Perhaps the flux mode can help you jam the hotcues in a primary deck?

Cheers! I’m not sure how you’re using beatjumps. Are you using additional midi software?
I reckon it’s possible to use flux mode for hotcue jamming with a default mapping but I want to hold that 8 count loop at the same time.

Yes, I’m using just a virtual midi cable to make traktor read the outputs but it’s the most complex thing I’ve ever created so far. Too many things going on to easily explain it… The trick is to have a secondary deck playing a track for 8 beats in front of a primary track to create a sort of a buffer so I can layer a beatjumps and loops on top of a primary deck.

Yeah I can imagine things getting pretty tricky there! How is it in use? Can you use it on the fly?
Now I’m thinking the remix decks might do the job of a duplicate track. Will take a look at that next.

It’s one of my BASE mappings that I never get time to finish. I’m using the same concept with volume faders except for I’m using midi to send value of the primary deck output knob to the input of the secondary deck knob, so that way volume is always equal where it was right before the loop was engaged. Cool thing about this slicer is that I can use a pad velocity (CC) to control the loop size, this actually should be optional (size, fx, EQ).

It does work on the fly but I need to test on a faster computer. Sometimes Traktor can’t process all data.

Remix deck is also good idea. That’s where I’m having troubles with a ā€˜slot copy from slot’ command… If that command worked I would have had a working one mapping for Spectra.

I like your volume control solution. If I were mapping this to a controller, instead of keyboard, I think I’d have Deck C volume & gain mapped to Deck A knob. Then find another way to disable Deck A’s audio when jamming.

I’ve just started a remix deck version. The responsiveness is fantastic - way better than the main deck. But I’m having trouble with slot size adjustment. So far the results are kinda unpredictable/inconsistent.

Can you get the "Slot Copy from Slot’ command to work?

Yes but only on the top row of slots. Button Options/Set to Value is the slot you want to copy and Assignment is the destination. Button Options/Set to Value: 8 - 11 are Deck C Slot 1 - 4 and Button Options/Set to Value: 12 - 15 are Deck D Slot 1 - 4. I haven’t tried the other values for Button Options/Set to Value but I presume they refer to Deck A & B. Seems to work okay.

That’s how I figured I’m supposed to go about setting it up but… Nope, that command ain’t working shit. - throwing the sample randomly all around the slot target (1,2,3 and 4)… and guess what, it only works for one time! :thumbsdown:

Thanks for your help man! I’ll try not to lose my mind before I figure what the hell is going wrong :smiley:

I’ve done a bit more testing and run into the ā€œonly works one timeā€ problem. It’s like the command crashes. I changed the interaction mode to Hold (from Direct) and that fixed it. Here’s something I noticed… When it crashed, I had to change the Button Options value to a different value, copy a slot, then set it back to the original value. Worked consistently after that. I was able to copy Deck C slots 1-4 to Deck D slots 1-4 mapped to a single button.

I’m still having a problem with Slot Size x2 and Slot Size /2. I’ve mapped a button to change the size of slots 1-4 at the same time, so you can double or halve them on the fly, but it doesn’t always do it consistently. One slot always gets left behind so it’s larger or smaller than the others. Any suggestions on that?

How many buttons TOTAL do you need for this? I’m thinking this could be a pretty cool way to use one of the SHIFT pages on my Novation Dicers…

How does it work when there are already Hotcues used and stored? Can a button be mapped to delete all of the new hotcues used for ā€œNicingā€?

I used…

8 buttons for hotcues
1 button to trigger backward loop
1 button to cancel backward loop and delete cues
4 buttons for fx presets
1 button for fx randomizer

So that’s 15 buttons total per deck although the fx randomizer isn’t essential. And there are other ways to map it using fewer buttons - for example, 1 button to cycle through fx presets. Or a knob. With a dicer I’d probably stick to a 4 count loop (so only need 4 buttons for hotcues) and use the computer keyboard for other functions.

I’ve mapped one button to delete hotcues (although it takes 4 presses to delete 8 or 2 presses to delete 4). Previously stored hotcues are an issue. I’m getting round it by creating a folder of duplicate tracks on my hard drive and ā€œNicingā€ :wink: from there.

I will try this tonight and let you know what happens.

Just tested this. Adding the x2 firstly and then adding the /2 right after puts the ā€œx2ā€ command on block. Just switching this two positions worked properly.

Yeah thanks a lot - that fixed the problem! Now if NI would allow x2 and /2 slot changes to more than just the top row, this mapping would work a lot better.

Glad that help! Btw, the slot size command should affect any last triggered sample. I’m not 100% sure about this though but that would make sense right?

Sorry, yes that’s right. What I really mean is that it would be great if I could change the size of all cells at the same time, not just the last triggered.

How about the actual looping? Dropping a loop affects all cells and allows changing a loop size for all samples at once.

Thanks for that idea - got it working great now.:thumbsup: