thinking about exchanging kontrol S4 for Serato???
So i love my traktor kontrol s4 but i am thinking about exchanging it and getting serato sl 3 and some cheap turntables until i can afford cdj’s . I am hoping to be playing clubs in the future and feel it would be wise and also i use ableton. My question is with serato sl3 how do i control the effects? can i use a midi intereface or do i need to have an expensive mixer. Does sl3 have a beat roll like traktor does by quantization or do i just need to buy a more expensive mixer???ah decisions. i do not know what to do. I am going to be mostly djing EDM but also some hip hop and my own music. With serato sl 3 can i dj just from my laptop as well ? when i do not have decks around.
If you wanna stay creative stick with the s4. That is not saying that people using serato are uncreative. I just find it alot easier to mash tunes in traktor.
Am I reading this correctly? Lol u want to get rid of the kontrol S4 and get serato? You will be making the biggest mistake of your DJ career … I don’t ever want to read this again lol
You want to exchange gold for bronze? People like different things but, that’s gotta be a first.
I would suggest trying the Serato 2.2 beta (or some number close to). Like you I’m a Traktor user, I wanted to see my options so I gave that beta a try. Within 15mins of Serato use I didn’t like it, perhaps you will. You should be able to get atleast $600 for S4 so you should have quite the budget for what type of setup your looking for if your not too picky. .
-Digi
I see no reason to do this unless you really love to beatmatch. That’s some really last decade stuff though. I know a couple of people who wanted some “old-school” cred with the local guys who have been at it forever and switched to Serato for really no other reason. They also started posting on Hollerboard, mysteriously. Not really a good look if you ask me.
i agree with all these guys… why switch for something shit when you got the cream of the crop… Ive used Both SSL and TSP with DVS in clubs and i can say TSP is WAAAY better than serato for running timecodes… plus you got all those nice effects… way more than in serato… if you hang out for a few months… the s4 will have Timecode support and then… if you really wanted to you could buy some turntables and some timecode vynils… But im sure once you get into the S4 you will see that what you have said here is quite stupid (no offence)…
I have mates that still use CDJ’s/Vynil setups… and they would KILL to trade there whole analog setup for an S4… do yourself a favour… KEEP IT!!!
And in the future if you get club gigs… whats stopping you from bringing your S4 along to perform… i bring a dump truck full of midi controllers, and my laptop to my gigs when i play… Just because the club has gear… doesnt mean you have to use it if you play there… Just make sure if you start gigging with your s4 to get a descent roadcase for it… you wouldnt want to damage that pwetty controller of yours now would you
i was in a compulsive mood last night. i just am more worried about switching over at clubs as i have some gigs coming up as well as using the bridge because most of my work is in ableton live. i dont know i might give traktor more of a chance i do love it. my music partner uses serato i guess i could try his out. do you think traktor will upgrade to color waveforms anytime soon?
I also am worried about the fact that the s4 is all in one piece and the faders aren’t replaceable.
now why would i do that trade … its either the s4 or serato for me. i still have 13 days left before my 30 days is up at guitar center. So your saying i can control the fx with computer keys? does serato have a beat roll like the S4? how are the fx? is the bridge only useful if i have a rane mixer? cause i have no plans to get one of those?
I was just throwing that out there, VCI-100SE 1st Gen are super rare plus I think it was be a fair trade.
“i still have 13 days left before my 30 days is up at guitar center”
GC will charge you 15% restocking fee, plus they dont do returns on software. Heck they dont even take Serato boxes back being that it has Serato Scratch Live (and its free to download from serato.com)
“does serato have a beat roll like the S4? how are the fx?”
Yes the have loop roll similar to the Pioneer DJM series mixers. Any yes the fx’s are good. I prefer them over the traktor fx’s being that the serato a pre-fader instead of post-fader like traktor has them.
“is the bridge only useful if i have a rane mixer?”
Mixtape on the bridge is good with the SL1/3 but is great with the 57/68. With the SL1/3 the bridge only records the output of the tracks. With the 57/68 it records the audio of the decks and the fader/eq movement.
Yeah I think your thinking in the right direction.
S4 Cheap feeling plastic traktor toy (but in a good limited way)
SL3 is way more powerfull at the end of the day.
SL3
6 in 6 out sound card
The bridge
Ableton is a very powerfull program you can do tons of stuff with. Dj , make music, whatever. I think Traktor is more for one dimensional djing still stuck in the middleground.
Ableton and instruments and so forth are the future for the multi dimensional dj. You can take any track that is playing and have it control an instrument which will be perfectly in time etc etc…
S4 is a bedroom toy for most cases, not all of course..
ok… i don’t see any where on the serato site saying i can use the akai lpd8 to control fx? can i do this for sure. I really love my s4 but i think the sl3 might be more beneficial for me in the long run . i probably will still spend my whole night trying to convince myself as to if i wanna keep it.
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if your better on a s4 then go for it !!! i feel limited in my art using somehting with less options. All that matter is that you get the club dancing and sell tons or beer controllers wont change anything there and maybe give something different. i LOL at my fail dj friend who said …i never played with cue point on my pionner or put effets. BTW hes retarded ..like realy dumb im suprise someone found him interesting to give him gigs … another WTF why him POST !!
Karlos speaks the truth! I wanted to get Sertato before my S4, I ended up playing with my girlfriend at the times SL3 - and I didn’t find it as fun as I thought it’d be. The S4 does get the creative juices flowing though for sure.
Has anyone wired S4 and ableton yet??
Just wondering if it’s as easy to do as it was with TSP.(If you’re using a mac that its, it pretty much sucks on a PC.)
