# This Is Not The Next Midifighter - Official Thread

**URL:** <https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/this-is-not-the-next-midifighter-official-thread/55945>\
**Category:** Midi Fighters\
**Tags:** competition, design, midi-fighter\
**Created:** [April 19, 2013, 2:37am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/this-is-not-the-next-midifighter-official-thread/55945 "2013-04-19T02:37:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 1

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Jester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/jester/32/12996_2.png) [@Jester](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Jester)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 2:37am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/this-is-not-the-next-midifighter-official-thread/55945/1 "2013-04-19T02:37:25Z")

</div>

**This Is Not The Next Midifighter - Official Thread**

Please read the Blog Post Here for more information and rules.

Lets see your designs folks !

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Jester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/jester/32/12996_2.png) [@Jester](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Jester)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 3:11am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/this-is-not-the-next-midifighter-official-thread/55945/2 "2013-04-19T03:11:24Z")

</div>

I whipped up something real quick for you guys in photoshop as an example design.

!([https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/55238820/MF](https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/55238820/MF) Cyborg.jpg)

Tip: No photoshop? Try GIMP, free [http://www.gimp.org/](http://www.gimp.org/)

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![photojojo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/photojojo/32/14618_2.png) [@photojojo](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/photojojo)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 7:21pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/this-is-not-the-next-midifighter-official-thread/55945/3 "2013-04-19T19:21:36Z")

</div>

My two so far

![](http://forum.djtechtools.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=17098&d=1366399137)

![](http://forum.djtechtools.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=17099&d=1366399213)

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![botstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/botstein/32/14075_2.png) [@botstein](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/botstein)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 11:08pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/this-is-not-the-next-midifighter-official-thread/55945/4 "2013-04-19T23:08:30Z")

</div>

Here’s my first entry. There sure are a lot of MIDI mixers among the submissions…

What about a special deck controller and drum maschine with a toggle-switch step sequencer?  
On the right, it’s got a big pitch fader with a reset (or sync/master if you’re feeling nasty), a hi/lopass filter knob, and an encoder and display to load up the artist’s kits.  
Can you spot the design influence front and center?  
The four faders and arcade buttons would be for levels of four samples/sequences (or remix deck slots if you’re feeling nasty). The four small buttons are stops and mutes.

 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/uploads/techtools/original/3X/e/4/e48f718a3593bf062b3636dcee40e681e8c8dd58.jpeg)

> **[Log into Facebook](https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151418503372572&set=o.349704910867&type=1)**
>
> Log into Facebook to start sharing and connecting with your friends, family, and people you know.

Here’s my second entry. I love the QFO - deck and mixer in one - and am inspired by table music. I’d love to set up two turntablists across from each other with only one of these to cut with, watch them fight over the center controls, and play on their 1200s and tricked-out crossfaders. Imagine if DJs could cut between two pairs of decks, switch their crossfaders to reversed and back, and sharp to smooth, on the fly.

 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/uploads/techtools/original/3X/c/f/cfc1d63eeb5c6d390e9cdb724a0bf93819a73aa5.jpeg)

> **[Log into Facebook](https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151418508977572&set=o.349704910867&type=1&theater)**
>
> Log into Facebook to start sharing and connecting with your friends, family, and people you know.

Here is my third entry. Once again, I dig the QFO - deck and mixer in one - and have always though table music was cool. The concept here was to surround the crossfader with additional controls to better juggle with the controls from turntables (and/or) cue points and drum maschines they probably already have.

![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/uploads/techtools/original/3X/6/4/64315bfd630c23986021bb1f2e81d648c000ca30.png)

> **[Log into Facebook](https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151418512347572&set=o.349704910867&type=1&theater)**
>
> Log into Facebook to start sharing and connecting with your friends, family, and people you know.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Jester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/jester/32/12996_2.png) [@Jester](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Jester)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2013, 3:54am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/this-is-not-the-next-midifighter-official-thread/55945/5 "2013-04-20T03:54:26Z")

</div>

Keep them coming guys, don’t forget to enter you need to post on the djtechtools facebook page in the appropriate manner.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Stewe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/stewe/32/14607_2.png) [@Stewe](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Stewe)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2013, 2:26pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/this-is-not-the-next-midifighter-official-thread/55945/6 "2013-04-20T14:26:11Z")

</div>

Here is my first entry:

 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/uploads/techtools/original/3X/6/9/6980a9787cbdb8db215c0ae1b8a618e5dc4624da.jpeg)

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![SlvrDragon50](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/35a633/32.png) [@SlvrDragon50](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/SlvrDragon50)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2013, 2:35am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/this-is-not-the-next-midifighter-official-thread/55945/7 "2013-04-21T02:35:33Z")

</div>

> [@Jester](#):
>
> Keep them coming guys, don’t forget to enter you need to post on the djtechtools facebook page in the appropriate manner.

Was it supposed to be the DJTT or MF page? I posted mine on DJTT only to realize it said MF page later on.

Posted it on MF anyways, but I hate spamming my friends for likes lol.  
 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/uploads/techtools/original/3X/6/4/64315bfd630c23986021bb1f2e81d648c000ca30.png)

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Jester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/jester/32/12996_2.png) [@Jester](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Jester)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2013, 2:41am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/this-is-not-the-next-midifighter-official-thread/55945/8 "2013-04-21T02:41:43Z")

</div>

[quote]When you’ve finished your design(s), you’ll want to submit your entry by posting it onto the Midi Fighter Facebook Page wall (_see the example at right_). Remember to include a description explaining how you would use the controller.

[/quote]

Look Ma, i can reads!

p.s don’t forget to remove the grid layer before flattening teh images 😉

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Fango\_Jett](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/fango_jett/32/6194_2.png) [@Fango\_Jett](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Fango_Jett)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2013, 9:42am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/this-is-not-the-next-midifighter-official-thread/55945/9 "2013-04-21T09:42:14Z")

</div>

So here are my 3 entries (most recent on the bottom)

_Midi Fighter Sense_

 ![Midi Fighter Sense.jpg](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/uploads/techtools/original/3X/f/c/fc1ec67a55cbb23674336199c229ebbce6010d97.jpeg)  
It includes velo sensitive pads, for controlling effects, triggering samples, cue juggling and many more. Thanks to the different layers, you are not restricted to just 1 mode (beatmasher, cue points, samples,…).

The endless rotary’s are perfect for controlling effects to bring your performance to the next level. Perfect controller for people who are looking for something “more”. A dj’s new love…

> **[Log in or sign up to view](https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10200281905343306&set=o.349704910867&type=1&theater)**
>
> See posts, photos and more on Facebook.

_Midi Fighter Twist_

 ![Midi Fighter Twist.jpg](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/uploads/techtools/original/3X/7/6/76e16cabdeae7917a592504f9eb1bcd161104ab7.jpeg)  
A possible mapping could be:  
\*First Layer  
-Endless pot’s = volume level  
-Other pot’s = eq’s (low mid high)  
-Wide buttons under pot’s = eq full kill (low mid high) + auto gain on/off  
-Circular buttons = FX1 FX2 on according to Deck A/C of B/D  
-Wide buttons right = Deck select A\<-\>C, B\<-\>C  
-Wide button left = FX layer  
-Crossfader speaks for itself

\*FX Layer  
-Endless pot’s = Dry/Wet  
-Other pot’s = other FX parameters  
-Wide button = corresponding FX buttons (on/off,…)  
-Other controls retain their previous function

The “Twist” would be a nice addition along with some other midifighters or it would fit in a traditional setup, for ultimate fx control.

Designed with Traktor in mind, but ableton would work flawlessly

> **[Log in or sign up to view](https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10200286703543258&set=o.349704910867&type=1&theater)**
>
> See posts, photos and more on Facebook.

_Midi Fighter Flash_

 ![Presentation Frame.jpg](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/uploads/techtools/original/3X/1/a/1a1d4a70486fd88eff269ae5b9f94e2760433b27.jpeg)  
Possible mapping:  
\*Rotary’s for smooth FX  
\*Wide buttons for different layers or FX controls (on/off, …)  
\*Faders for combo FX or volume  
\*Touch strips for expressive effects (to add another layer of of FX on top of basic FX (beatmasher + filter/key/transpose/…)  
\*Circular buttons for deck assigning the FX’s

Perfect for difficult FX combo’s or suitable for basic mixer controls!

> **[Log in or sign up to view](https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10200290014426028&set=o.349704910867&type=1&theater)**
>
> See posts, photos and more on Facebook.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![djmatthewstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@djmatthewstar](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/djmatthewstar)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2013, 3:50pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/this-is-not-the-next-midifighter-official-thread/55945/10 "2013-04-21T15:50:33Z")

</div>

**My Modular Midi Fighters**

 ![Midi Machine.jpg](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/uploads/techtools/original/3X/f/8/f8497fbb2ab1d065043b5bfa98dcf5fa6910d538.jpeg) ![Midi Fighter M1.jpg](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/uploads/techtools/original/3X/2/5/25e7219126f6606d27db03131941ac04e25fca42.jpeg) ![Mini Fighter Pro.jpg](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/uploads/techtools/original/3X/4/c/4c3e5208e1e175dd6696582db28e3de9b0829b19.jpeg)

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![dfinch805](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3e96dc/32.png) [@dfinch805](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/dfinch805)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2013, 10:50pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/this-is-not-the-next-midifighter-official-thread/55945/11 "2013-04-21T22:50:12Z")

</div>

> [@Jester](#):
>
> Look Ma, i can reads!
> 
> p.s don’t forget to remove the grid layer before flattening teh images 😉

Honestly, I left the grid because I see a lot of entries with no grid that have overlapping squares and designs that don’t fit in the grid as required. It shows that my design is falling under the correct guidelines.

Also, if this disqualifies contestants, let me know so I can reupload… didn’t see anything about the grid except that you must fit in the lines appropriately.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Jester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/jester/32/12996_2.png) [@Jester](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Jester)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2013, 11:25pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/this-is-not-the-next-midifighter-official-thread/55945/12 "2013-04-21T23:25:27Z")

</div>

dfinch if the modules overlap the same square as another module, the design does not qualify

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![DISaS73R](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c5a1d2/32.png) [@DISaS73R](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/DISaS73R)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 4:59pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/this-is-not-the-next-midifighter-official-thread/55945/13 "2013-04-22T16:59:31Z")

</div>

This one’s mine, it works best for two decks and does the basic stuff really.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![midifidler](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/midifidler/32/14143_2.png) [@midifidler](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/midifidler)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 5:49pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/this-is-not-the-next-midifighter-official-thread/55945/14 "2013-04-22T17:49:13Z")

</div>

@dfinch - it wont disqualify you

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Jester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/jester/32/12996_2.png) [@Jester](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Jester)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 11:52pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/this-is-not-the-next-midifighter-official-thread/55945/15 "2013-04-22T23:52:28Z")

</div>

dang, some cool designs coming in 🙂

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![scattrrbrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b19c9b/32.png) [@scattrrbrain](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/scattrrbrain)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 2:32am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/this-is-not-the-next-midifighter-official-thread/55945/16 "2013-04-23T02:32:05Z")

</div>

[quote]Hey DJ TechTools! I’ve been a long time fan of what you guys do and felt like I’d contribute to this project, seeing as how I’m a kind-of midi freak.  
This is the Midi Fighter DeLux:  
I tried to make the design pretty clear, but still obviously clean and usable. I labeled the channels for reference and added sendFX toggle buttons, which are located above the crossfader.  
Both X and Y channels receive as many of the FX sends as needed (for a more flexible design) and with a little bit of trickery I’m sure anyone could use MIDI macros to add up to as many sends as you would need per channel.  
I also took the liberty to show the signal flow with my silkscreening which would help new users to remind themselves about the channel paths.  
I REALLY hope all you guys like this one, because I REALLY want a shiny new toy to make tracks with!  
Cheers.  
Scattrrbrain.  
[www.scattrrbrain.com](http://www.scattrrbrain.com)[/quote]

[quote]Hello again DJ TechTools! Due to the good response of the last controller I made and some thoughts over the night about my other love, analog, I decided to make a FX controller.

This is the Midi Fighter LNCHBOX:

Here’s an example simulation of what the project might look like with a physical controller:  
https://www.youtube.com/embed/mXrRrkqKauw?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque

It acts as a MIDI FX controller with some of the very familiar ideas of lunchbox synths of our day. I’ll do a bit more explaining on the functionality on this, since its rather specific.

You would send up to as many channels as needed to the two onboard MIDI FX returns, where the sound would then be modulated using the functions on the right side of the unit. Since it is a Midi FIGHTER, I uncluded two “hold” buttons with send volumes above them for interesting sequencing. The functions on the right include the basics: a Filter with dynamic waveform parameters and an LFO insert, a switchable LFO with rate potentiometer, and last but not least, a full volume envelope for truly dialing in that sendFX.

So anyway, you can imagine some of the INSANE sounds you could pull just by simply routing a, say, bass line through this puppy.

Have fun as always!

Scattrrbrain  
[www.scattrrbrain.com](http://www.scattrrbrain.com)[/quote]

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![botstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/botstein/32/14075_2.png) [@botstein](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/botstein)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 2:50am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/this-is-not-the-next-midifighter-official-thread/55945/17 "2013-04-23T02:50:33Z")

</div>

> [@scattrrbrain](#):
>

That’s neat. It’s nice to see designs that aren’t transport controls or mixers or X1s.

Why the MIDI Fighter logo as opposed to another LFO or part of the panel?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![scattrrbrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b19c9b/32.png) [@scattrrbrain](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/scattrrbrain)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 3:43am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/this-is-not-the-next-midifighter-official-thread/55945/18 "2013-04-23T03:43:50Z")

</div>

> [@botstein](#):
>
> That’s neat. It’s nice to see designs that aren’t transport controls or mixers or X1s.
> 
> Why the MIDI Fighter logo as opposed to another LFO or part of the panel?

Because, it’s cool. But not only that, because it’s functionality wouldn’t call for another LFO, or anything else for that matter. The design was based around the old school lunchbox synths where simplicity is key. Most people don’t realize with just a COUPLE of the controls up there you can TRUELY modify the wave shape, versus distorting it with too much complexity.

Call me OCD, but really the only thing I would add to the LNCHBOX would be the actual built-in analog patches directly into the controller which would receive signal from and back out in midi format.

The current technology behind this sort-of midi/analog Frankenstein tool are very possible, but unheard of at this point. That in itself makes it unique, my friend.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![botstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/botstein/32/14075_2.png) [@botstein](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/botstein)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 4:22am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/this-is-not-the-next-midifighter-official-thread/55945/19 "2013-04-23T04:22:49Z")

</div>

> [@scattrrbrain](#):
>
> …modify the wave format…

I lost you there.

> [@scattrrbrain](#):
>
> …only thing I would add to the LNCHBOX would be the actual built-in analog patches directly into the controller which would receive signal from and back out in midi format.
> 
> The current technology behind this sort-of midi/analog Frankenstein tool are very possible, but **unheard of** at this point. That in itself makes it unique, my friend.

I wouldn’t say it’s “unheard of.” Are you familiar with illucia?[illucia console prototype: a modular codebending instrument](http://vimeo.com/22732435)?

Also, I’ve been beta testing the QuNexus for a few weeks now, and I really enjoy the CV-to-MIDI and MIDI-to-CV features with big Serge synths and Max/MSP and Reaktor.

There’s a good amount of this stuff coming. Props for a design that eschews mixers and transport controls, though.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![scattrrbrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b19c9b/32.png) [@scattrrbrain](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/scattrrbrain)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 3:15pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/this-is-not-the-next-midifighter-official-thread/55945/20 "2013-04-23T15:15:57Z")

</div>

> [@botstein](#):
>
> I lost you there.

I PM’ed you… I don’t wanna get off topic by talking too much geek in this thread.

[Next page](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/this-is-not-the-next-midifighter-official-thread/55945.md?page=2)
