# Traktor 2.6 + VCI-100SE = Broken Sync. WTF **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [January 21, 2013, 1:03am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/traktor-2-6-vci-100se-broken-sync-wtf/52283 "2013-01-21T01:03:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Silverfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e480ec/32.png) [@Silverfish](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Silverfish)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2013, 1:03am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/traktor-2-6-vci-100se-broken-sync-wtf/52283/1 "2013-01-21T01:03:11Z")
**Traktor 2.6 + VCI-100SE = Broken Sync. WTF** Hey team. In serious need of help. Today I fired up Traktor, went to sync a track, and the synced track went all screwy. Here’s the lowdown: Loaded track in Deck A. Hit play. Deck A is master. Loaded track in Deck B. Cued Deck B. Hit sync button. Pressed play, and the track in Deck B speeds up 4-10%. Trainwreck. What the heck is going on? iMac with OS X 10.6.8 Traktor 2.6.whatever the latest is Vestax VCI-100SE, v4.1 TSI Thanks for your help! ---
**Author:** ![dripstep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/dripstep/32/15184_2.png) [@dripstep](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/dripstep)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2013, 1:35am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/traktor-2-6-vci-100se-broken-sync-wtf/52283/2 "2013-01-21T01:35:14Z")
Note to self: Shoulda learned how to match by ear… ---
**Author:** ![Silverfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e480ec/32.png) [@Silverfish](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Silverfish)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2013, 1:51am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/traktor-2-6-vci-100se-broken-sync-wtf/52283/3 "2013-01-21T01:51:44Z")
Thanks, ass. That’s very helpful. 🙄 Normally I do match by ear, which is why I haven’t noticed this problem before. What I don’t want is a situation where I’m at a gig, and for whatever reason I hit Sync and it makes a sticky situation worse. ---
**Author:** ![Culture\_Shock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ed655f/32.png) [@Culture\_Shock](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Culture_Shock)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2013, 2:50am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/traktor-2-6-vci-100se-broken-sync-wtf/52283/4 "2013-01-21T02:50:02Z")
If the track cues up properly, but then goes out of sync when you hit the sync button, I would think that you’re loading the track with sync on, and then turning sync off when you press the button again. Maybe your tracks aren’t beat gridded properly? Or could it be the vci100se tempo fader bug. Make sure to zero out your pitch faders(press shift and center the pitchfaders) when you first start up traktor or else the tempo jumps out of place when you try to use them. or bump them. ---
**Author:** ![AllDay](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/allday/32/13720_2.png) [@AllDay](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/AllDay)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2013, 2:53am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/traktor-2-6-vci-100se-broken-sync-wtf/52283/5 "2013-01-21T02:53:00Z")
> [@Culture\_Shock](#): > > If the track cues up properly, but then goes out of sync when you hit the sync button, I would think that you’re loading the track with sync on, and then turning sync off when you press the button again. > Maybe your tracks aren’t beat gridded properly? > Or could it be the vci100se tempo fader bug. Make sure to zero out your pitch faders(press shift and center the pitchfaders) when you first start up traktor or else the tempo jumps out of place when you try to use them. or bump them. I have a feeling it might be your last solution! ---
**Author:** ![Silverfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e480ec/32.png) [@Silverfish](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Silverfish)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2013, 5:31am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/traktor-2-6-vci-100se-broken-sync-wtf/52283/6 "2013-01-21T05:31:58Z")
Tracks are beatgridded properly. Sync is off when the track is loaded. Pitch faders are zeroed out. I tried importing a fresh download of the 4.1 TSI, and that had no effect. Upon further inspection, what seems to be happening is that pressing play causes the pitch shift amount to double. So, if when I turn Sync on, the track is +4%, then pressing play causes the track to be at +8% (and thus, not in sync at all). I’m beginning to think it’s an issue with the VCI-100 or the MIDI mapping, because it doesn’t happen if I use the mouse. Thanks again for your help! ---
**Author:** ![Silverfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e480ec/32.png) [@Silverfish](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Silverfish)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2013, 8:48am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/traktor-2-6-vci-100se-broken-sync-wtf/52283/7 "2013-01-21T08:48:28Z")
Seems to be a MIDI mapping issue. I tested with v3.6.4 and it was working just fine. It looks like the issue is in TSI v4.1. Weird. ---
**Author:** ![dripstep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/dripstep/32/15184_2.png) [@dripstep](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/dripstep)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2013, 1:49pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/traktor-2-6-vci-100se-broken-sync-wtf/52283/8 "2013-01-21T13:49:57Z")
I was just playing silverfish 😛 Out of curiosity, were you using a custom mapping, or the one that came with Traktor? ---
**Author:** ![lethal\_pizzle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/lethal_pizzle/32/11770_2.png) [@lethal\_pizzle](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/lethal_pizzle)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2013, 3:10pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/traktor-2-6-vci-100se-broken-sync-wtf/52283/9 "2013-01-21T15:10:37Z")
> [@Culture\_Shock](#): > > it be the vci100se tempo fader bug. Tell me more about this bug ---
**Author:** ![Silverfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e480ec/32.png) [@Silverfish](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Silverfish)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2013, 7:30pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/traktor-2-6-vci-100se-broken-sync-wtf/52283/10 "2013-01-21T19:30:55Z")
> [@dripstep](#): > > I was just playing silverfish 😛 > > Out of curiosity, were you using a custom mapping, or the one that came with Traktor? Sorry for calling names. 😮 I usually don’t do that. As far as a custom mapping, it’s the DJTechTools VCI-100SE 4.1 mapping. At one time I had messed with the mapping, and I wondered if I broke it somehow, but I downloaded a fresh copy of 4.1 and the problem persisted. I’ll try the standard Traktor mapping tonight when I get some time. I’d like to know more about this tempo fader bug, too. ---
**Author:** ![MaxOne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/maxone/32/13139_2.png) [@MaxOne](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/MaxOne)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2013, 7:39pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/traktor-2-6-vci-100se-broken-sync-wtf/52283/11 "2013-01-21T19:39:04Z")
when it’s synced is it showing the same tempo? cause if not… then it’s not synced? have you tried beatsync instead of tempo sync? you could try remapping it and see what that does. make a back up of the tsi and make a new one based on it ---
**Author:** ![Culture\_Shock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ed655f/32.png) [@Culture\_Shock](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Culture_Shock)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2013, 2:00am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/traktor-2-6-vci-100se-broken-sync-wtf/52283/12 "2013-01-22T02:00:40Z")
> [@lethal\_pizzle](#): > > Tell me more about this bug My firmware is only version 1.3, so it may have been weeded out in later versions. The pitch faders are supposed to work in “direct relation” mode, which means that when you use the slider on your controller, the pitch control should snap to the position the slider is adjusted to, even if it is changed manually in the software with a mouse or whatever. When you first boot Traktor with the 1.3(1.3xx whatever version I’m using at least) tsi loaded, and adjust the pitch fader, instead of snapping to the position relative to the fader on the controller, the value snaps to minus a few percentages of the fader on your controller. Your pitch sliders work as normally except for being a few percentages south of accurate, and the only way to fix the problem is to reset the tempo on each deck. After holding shift and centering the pitch sliders, the tempo snaps to +/-0% and is properly oriented to the sliders, they then work just fine until you reboot traktor. It hasn’t been a problem for me, since I orient all of my knobs and sliders as a part of setup. ---
**Author:** ![lethal\_pizzle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/lethal_pizzle/32/11770_2.png) [@lethal\_pizzle](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/lethal_pizzle)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2013, 6:51am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/traktor-2-6-vci-100se-broken-sync-wtf/52283/13 "2013-01-22T06:51:06Z")
I’ve got firmware 1.3, never noticed that problem on my custom VCI .tsi mapping. The VCI always seemed to send the current absolute position of the faders accurately. Mind you, I never use any relative mapping in Traktor, or soft takeover either. It’s probably a mapping rather than a VCI issue. ---
**Author:** ![Silverfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e480ec/32.png) [@Silverfish](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Silverfish)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2013, 5:07am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/traktor-2-6-vci-100se-broken-sync-wtf/52283/14 "2013-04-04T05:07:26Z")
Just wanted to post this for the archives: The solution to the above mentioned problem is to reset or delete the “Tempo Sync” mapping, and keep the “Sync On” mapping with the notation for FW 1.4. Solved the problem instantly.