# Traktor 2 pitch using CDJ's & timecode **URL:** \ **Category:** CDJ & Vinyl DJing\ **Created:** [June 21, 2011, 8:24pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/traktor-2-pitch-using-cdjs-timecode/26088 "2011-06-21T20:24:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Audio\_Aerosol](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/audio_aerosol/32/13473_2.png) [@Audio\_Aerosol](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Audio_Aerosol)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2011, 8:24pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/traktor-2-pitch-using-cdjs-timecode/26088/1 "2011-06-21T20:24:12Z")
**Traktor 2 pitch using CDJ’s & timecode** Hi, When using my CDJ 800mk2’s the pitch slider has always seemed overly sensitive. I assumed this was the norm until I played out at the weekend on a pair of CDJ 1000’s using the same setup I have at home (timecode) and the pitch slider’s were a lot less sensitive. They were behaving as they would when playing with CD’s. Mine don’t?? Is this due to the CDJ 1000’s having a better pitch resolution? thanks🙂 ---
**Author:** ![MrPopinjay](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/mrpopinjay/32/14471_2.png) [@MrPopinjay](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/MrPopinjay)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2011, 8:48pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/traktor-2-pitch-using-cdjs-timecode/26088/2 "2011-06-21T20:48:16Z")
Are you sure you have them set to the smallest pitch range? With the same length pitch slider and the same pitch range there should be no difference in sensitivity. ---
**Author:** ![Audio\_Aerosol](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/audio_aerosol/32/13473_2.png) [@Audio\_Aerosol](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Audio_Aerosol)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2011, 9:04pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/traktor-2-pitch-using-cdjs-timecode/26088/3 "2011-06-21T21:04:24Z")
The set tempo range is on 100% and the current tempo range is on 8%. None of the settings were changed when using the 1000’s just literally plugged in my audio 8 and relevant cables. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Bong\_Squad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/the_bong_squad/32/12779_2.png) [@The\_Bong\_Squad](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/The_Bong_Squad)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2011, 9:50pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/traktor-2-pitch-using-cdjs-timecode/26088/4 "2011-06-21T21:50:08Z")
Did you change the tempo range on the CD-DJ’s themselves? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Audio\_Aerosol](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/audio_aerosol/32/13473_2.png) [@Audio\_Aerosol](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Audio_Aerosol)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 8:27am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/traktor-2-pitch-using-cdjs-timecode/26088/5 "2011-06-22T08:27:54Z")
No, As I said before I just plugged my Audio 8 in and off I went. The DJ before me might of. I wasn’t aware you could change the pitch range on the 1000’s TBH. you can’t on my 800mk2’s I don’t think.😕😕😕 ---
**Author:** ![The\_Bong\_Squad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/the_bong_squad/32/12779_2.png) [@The\_Bong\_Squad](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/The_Bong_Squad)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 12:08pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/traktor-2-pitch-using-cdjs-timecode/26088/6 "2011-06-22T12:08:26Z")
Just about the pitch control there is a button with TEMPO (+/-6 / +/-10 / +/-16), have you tried that? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Audio\_Aerosol](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/audio_aerosol/32/13473_2.png) [@Audio\_Aerosol](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Audio_Aerosol)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 12:33pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/traktor-2-pitch-using-cdjs-timecode/26088/7 "2011-06-22T12:33:28Z")
not on the 800mk2’s there isn’t. ---
**Author:** ![MrPopinjay](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/mrpopinjay/32/14471_2.png) [@MrPopinjay](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/MrPopinjay)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 12:34pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/traktor-2-pitch-using-cdjs-timecode/26088/8 "2011-06-22T12:34:07Z")
Yes there is. It’s 8% and “wide” I think? ---
**Author:** ![Audio\_Aerosol](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/audio_aerosol/32/13473_2.png) [@Audio\_Aerosol](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Audio_Aerosol)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 12:54pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/traktor-2-pitch-using-cdjs-timecode/26088/9 "2011-06-22T12:54:38Z")
Oh well if that’s what Bong Squad then it’s on 8% not wide. Maybe it was to do with the 1000’s pitch range being set higher which was why it was less sensitive. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![MrPopinjay](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/mrpopinjay/32/14471_2.png) [@MrPopinjay](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/MrPopinjay)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 12:56pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/traktor-2-pitch-using-cdjs-timecode/26088/10 "2011-06-22T12:56:02Z")
No, that would make it more sensitive, not less. You can set them to 6% though, is it possible that they were? ---
**Author:** ![Audio\_Aerosol](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/audio_aerosol/32/13473_2.png) [@Audio\_Aerosol](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Audio_Aerosol)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 1:02pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/traktor-2-pitch-using-cdjs-timecode/26088/11 "2011-06-22T13:02:29Z")
> [@MrPopinjay](#): > > No, that would make it more sensitive, not less. You can set them to 6% though, is it possible that they were? You think? i thought increasing the pitch range would make it easier to accurately achieve the required BPM? Where as at the moment on my 800’s a slight movement on the pitch slider will send it up by roughly .5 of a BPM hence making it less accurate to achieve the required BPM. ---
**Author:** ![padi\_04](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/padi_04/32/56291_2.png) [@padi\_04](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/padi_04)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 1:07pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/traktor-2-pitch-using-cdjs-timecode/26088/12 "2011-06-22T13:07:04Z")
> [@Audio\_Aerosol](#): > > You think? i thought increasing the pitch range would make it easier to accurately achieve the required BPM? Where as at the moment on my 800’s a slight movement on the pitch slider will send it up by roughly .5 of a BPM hence making it less accurate to achieve the required BPM. Increasing the pitch range makes the resolution steps larger, hence achieving a lower resolution. ---
**Author:** ![MrPopinjay](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/mrpopinjay/32/14471_2.png) [@MrPopinjay](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/MrPopinjay)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 1:10pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/traktor-2-pitch-using-cdjs-timecode/26088/13 "2011-06-22T13:10:27Z")
Increasing the pitch range = larger % interval per mm = higher bpm per mm = the same adjustment to the pitch fader results in a larger change in the tempo of the music. Assuming the pitch fader is 100mm **+/-10%** pitch fader: 1mm adjustment = 0.2% pitch = **0.28 bpm** change @ 140 bpm **+/-20%** pitch fader: 1mm adjustment = 0.4% pitch = **0.56 bpm** change @ 140 bpm So as you can see it become more and more difficult to make fine adjustments to tempo as the pitch range increases. This makes it easier to get a perfect tempo match with a smaller pitch range. ---
**Author:** ![Audio\_Aerosol](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/audio_aerosol/32/13473_2.png) [@Audio\_Aerosol](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Audio_Aerosol)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 1:13pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/traktor-2-pitch-using-cdjs-timecode/26088/14 "2011-06-22T13:13:26Z")
In which case could it be that the 1000’s have a higher resolution which is why I have noticed the sliders to be more accurate than my 800’s? ---
**Author:** ![MrPopinjay](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/mrpopinjay/32/14471_2.png) [@MrPopinjay](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/MrPopinjay)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 1:15pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/traktor-2-pitch-using-cdjs-timecode/26088/15 "2011-06-22T13:15:47Z")
**IF** they were set to a **pitch range** +/-6% I’m not sure the actual resolution of the pitch faders is different, I thought they used the same components. Either way they are fine enough not to actually have any difference here, unlike with shitty midi controllers. ---
**Author:** ![Audio\_Aerosol](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/audio_aerosol/32/13473_2.png) [@Audio\_Aerosol](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Audio_Aerosol)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 1:29pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/traktor-2-pitch-using-cdjs-timecode/26088/16 "2011-06-22T13:29:51Z")
I don’t understand why a slight movement of the pitch slider on mine increases/decreases the BPM so much if the difference is that little. ---
**Author:** ![MrPopinjay](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/mrpopinjay/32/14471_2.png) [@MrPopinjay](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/MrPopinjay)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 1:33pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/traktor-2-pitch-using-cdjs-timecode/26088/17 "2011-06-22T13:33:25Z")
It’s a proportionally huge difference between +/-6% and +/-10%! ---
**Author:** ![padi\_04](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/padi_04/32/56291_2.png) [@padi\_04](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/padi_04)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 1:45pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/traktor-2-pitch-using-cdjs-timecode/26088/18 "2011-06-22T13:45:34Z")
> [@MrPopinjay](#): > > It’s a proportionally huge difference between +/-6% and +/-10%! +1 ---
**Author:** ![Audio\_Aerosol](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/audio_aerosol/32/13473_2.png) [@Audio\_Aerosol](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Audio_Aerosol)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 1:50pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/traktor-2-pitch-using-cdjs-timecode/26088/19 "2011-06-22T13:50:40Z")
Yes, But if mine are on 8% and the 1000’s were on I’m assuming 6% because they were more accurate in achieving the fine adjustments. It doesn’t make sense why the difference would be so noticeable. ---
**Author:** ![MrPopinjay](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/mrpopinjay/32/14471_2.png) [@MrPopinjay](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/MrPopinjay)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 1:54pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/traktor-2-pitch-using-cdjs-timecode/26088/20 "2011-06-22T13:54:39Z")
CDJ 800mk2s don’t go to +/-8% I swear. It’s +/-10% or wide, right? [Next page](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/traktor-2-pitch-using-cdjs-timecode/26088.md?page=2)