Traktor 2 zoomed in: Where does the actual beat start?
Hi,
Just upgraded to tractor 2 and redoing my grids as needed. I have a question: I’m not sure exactly where to place the marker. In the middle of the curves or right at the beginning of the curve or at the highest point of the curves?
Or will this vary per song and I should trust my ears and not worry too much?
It almost seems like too much zoom can be a confusing thing 
Cheers
im wondering the exact same thing, but for me it seems like the beginning. Im not sure though.
Generally at the peak of the curve. When there’s no grid, look for where Traktor places the transient marker. That’s usually accurate, drop a grid marker there.
I’m having issues with this too, I’m slowly regriding everything by ear. Which is easy, if the track starts with a kick drum, just cue it up and put a grid marker. It only becomes trickier with track that start with a transient.
tip: drop a grid marker on an obvious kick, then if you want your grid marker at the start of the track just put snap on and drop a hotcue on the closest beat marker to the start. delete the grid but the cue will still be there, then cue up the hotcue you dropped and put a new grid marker there.
You want it at the start of the up in the wave form.
Yup, combine that with when you start hearing a "whump " while slowly pushing the track forward (which typically should happen at about the same place) and you’re golden.
Side note : for me, doing that works better when switching to internal playback and nudging with the mouse instead of trying to home in with timecode, which isn’t precise enough at this scale/speed.
Another pro tip, move the grid one click in one direction or the other can give your synced mixes a little bit of groove. It doesn’t work for everything, so do a little experimenting.
How do we give pro tips?? Do we have to be pro’s?? :eek:
thank you all! that’s really helpful. will have a mess around later with that off grid syncing tip too.
now just to find a spare few days to regrid everything - lol
Well, with the TP2 zoom it’s a matter of like a minute (two at the very most, if you also have to set cue-points) to grid a track. Definitely quicker than with the old Traktor.
im just wondering why it would give it a little bit of groove. just curious!
Because it’ll lose that perfect machine match sound. Groove may not be the right word and I may be making it up in my head, but to me if the grid is just ever so slightly off it sounds more “human”
ahhh. got it. “groove” then, since it isnt exactly a groove. thanks! 
photojojo, why not just jog it back yourself and offset the beat to give it swing? This way when needed, your tracks will all be gridded properly! Unless you use BeatSync and not tempo-sync.
honestly, as long as you’re consistent across all your tracks, it doesn’t really matter where you put it.
the voice of reason fnord lol. i am coming to that conclusion myself 
furthermore at maximum zoom slight differences in where the grid is makes no difference to my hearing!
It does matter where you put it. Try sticking a loop with ‘snap’ on in a quiet part of a song just before the drums drop back in. If you’ve gridded to far to the right you’ll get an audible click which is undesirable.
Is Swing…innit?
Goove aka Swing
+1