Traktor 3.4 and multiple MIDI channels

Traktor 3.4 and multiple MIDI channels

Hi,

If anyone can help me out with this it would be much appreciated :slight_smile:.

I’ve been searching and searching and haven’t been able to find an answer so apologies if this has been covered before.

Am I correct in assuming that soft takeover does not work on an analogue knob/fader when using more than one midi channel?

Example:
My ReMOTE ZeRO has two custom mappings, EQ on midi channel 1 and FX on midi channel 2. I’ve checked the pots (and rotaries) are configured correctly on both the ZeRO and in Traktor and have soft takeover enabled…but when I switch the ZeRO from controlling the EQ (midi channel 1) to controlling the FX (midi channel 2) soft takeover does not appear to be working, and the EQ or FX knob in Traktor “jumps” when the pot is moved on the ZeRO.

I’ve tested this out on the demo of Traktor Pro 1.1 and with another controller (Evolution MK249c), but still get the same result.

I have however managed to get it to work properly using midi pages and keeping the same midi channel (EQ on Page 1, FX on Page 2) - but this means I don’t have the very handy display info from the ZeRO that switches when I go from midi channel 1 to 2.

Does any of this make any sense :confused:.

This is an interesting situation. Being I’m looking at doing this on T3.4… if no one can get an answer to you by tomorrow night I’ll have found something by then for sure.

Hi DvlsAdvct,

A quick update on this, I’ve just tried using a combo of midi pages and channels.

Example:
I’ve assigned an analogue pot on midi channel 1, page 1 to control FX knob 1 on deck A, and then assigned the same pot but on midi channel 2, page 2 to control FX knob 1 on deck B.

Unfortunately no joy, soft takeover still doesn’t seem to work.

If you could let me know if you have the same issue that would be much appreciated. I’ve spent a while setting up hotkeys and midi mappings (which I do plan on posting here when complete) and this hopefully is the last hurdle. Maybe. Perhaps :slight_smile:.

Thanks.

Why are you setting them to different channels if they are on different pages?

Just a test to see if it made any difference.

Oh, well, what I think it is…

Soft takeover is supposed to be used when the same message is used for multiple controls using MIDI Pages or modifiers. I could be wrong on this, but my guess is that this is why it’s not working. :disappointed:

Yeah, that’s what I was thinking - I guess soft takeover can’t go between midi channels. Boooooo.

Oh well, midi pages it is for the time being then.

I wonder if BOMES could help with this? I don’t know anything about BOMES but I’ll look into and post if I find anything out.

You can do this with global variables, I think. I’m trying to work on a similar setup using my VCI, so if I get anywhere I’ll let you know :slight_smile:

Bomes can do pretty much anything if you put your mind to it :wink: It could do this for sure.

Downloading Bomes Classic, so I’ll see how I get on (it looks a bit scary :eek:slight_smile:, but then all new things do.

@DvlsAdvct - let me know if you have any joy :slight_smile:.

Bomes looks scary, but take it from me, once you start digging it all starts to make more sense.

Tonight I’m going to be working with Bomes modifiers for EQ, so I’ll definitely get an answer.

@ DvlsAdvct:

I was wondering if you had a chance to look into this on your setup?

Using Bomes (Classic) I think what needs to be done is set up a translator to convert an incoming message from a pot on midi channel 2, to output on midi channel 1, and then do another translator (for the same pot) to activate midi page 2 in Traktor.

In Traktor I’ve got the SPACE bar mapped in Hotkeys (hold mode) to select midi page 2.

But this doesn’t work :disappointed: The translator works for re-routing midi from channel 2 to 1, but I’m guessing the pot sends loads of on/off messages and this screws up the SPACE bar press to select midi page 2.

Any ideas most welcome :slight_smile:

Thanks.

Wait a second

I just re-read your first thread

Why are you re-assigning the pot on midi channel 2? The controller isn’t sending anything on midi channel 2. And when you’re on MIDI page 2 it won’t send the same message as on page 1, but instead for what it’s assigned to on page 2. So wouldn’t it make sense to set it to midi channel 1 on page 1 as well? Then soft takeover should work.

The reason for re-assigning is the ReMOTE puts out midi on channels 1 and 2. I’ve got a template for controlling EQ which is on channel 1, and a template for FX on channel 2. The reason for the different templates is to take advantage of the displays on the ReMOTE, so I can tell when I’m using EQ or FX, and if the EQ and FX templates were on the same midi channel that wouldn’t work in Traktor.

I didn’t initially want to use midi pages in Traktor because I couldn’t see a way to have the ReMOTE using two templates on the same midi channel and switch between midi pages in Traktor when switching templates (on the ReMOTE).

I could just assign a button on the ReMOTE to switch midi pages in Traktor, but that would mean having to check which template I’m in (on the ReMOTE) and which midi page I’m on - and that would confuse the hell out of me :smiley:

So that’s why I’m trying to re-assign all the midi on channel 2, to channel 1.

I hope I’m explaining this clearly, I’m having a lot of trouble getting my head round it!

Maybe I’m going about this in the wrong way. Someone slap me in the face or something to snap me back into focus.

It’s not necessarily that complicated.

If you have the MIDI pages set on toggle then just set the LED display to recognize the change. That way when you press your button for MIDI Page 2 it will say On when it’s on MIDI Page 2 and Off when on Page 1. Then everything can transmit on the same channel.

Also, you can see the difference with a quick tweak of the knob to see what moves. I’d think that you won’t be sitting on FX control if you’re not actually controlling it, though.

But still, why are you using MIDI Pages AND channel changes? If you are using channel changes you might as well keep it on the same page because the soft takeover won’t work across channels. OR you MIDI pages and use the same commands. Using both just overcomplicates the situation.

I’m after a very specific workflow and need to have the different EQ and FX displays on the ReMOTE, and assigning a midi page button unfortunately doesn’t fit with the workflow.

Back to the drawing board I guess, but thanks for your replies though, much appreciated :slight_smile: