traktor analyze track

traktor analyze track

HI, to everyone.I’m writing this post because I have a problem with the track analyse of Traktor.When I try to synchronise the analysed tracks the 80% of the tracks in my playlist is not synch and the grids must be set manually.I think that is very strange don’t you? I ask you if there is a special technique or some special settings to have grids set in a right way. Waiting…I thank you very very much

It may depend of the track. If trying to grid Electronic genres (be it house, techno, etc) the syncing is usually good at the first time, except in some cases that the track has a odd build up, maybe 1/2 beat added or something like that.
When I try to mix other genres (not electornic music) sometimes the grid doesn’t sets really well..
As a matter of fact, when I DJ hip-hop, I do it on Serato because I sync manually on it.
Give a little more detail of the issue, so maybe someone could help you-

Its not strange, traktor is not perfect at setting grids, nor is any software.

If you want to be 100% sure that the tracks have perfect grids you need to do it manually with all of them. I do it, and believe most people do.

There is no special technique, just train, be a pro at setting grids and you will do it in seconds.

Also, you should know that some tracks don’t have a constant BPM. That means traktor cannot set a proper grid for it. You have two options when it happens: warp it using a DAW like Ableton, or set grid markers for every BPM change and re-sync the tracks after crossing the grid markers. (I use Ableton)

manual is the way to go, i don’t sync but i still like my grids to match up. I have had to do it to id say 80% or more of my tracks.

It depends on the type of music you play how good the auto analysis is. If you analyse techno or commercial EDM it will get it spot on most of the time. If you’re talking groovy nu-disco or hiphop it won’t have the same results.

Plenty of time to readjust the grids if they are off while in the mix. But yeah, don’t rely on the software to set your grids.

Have you tried adjusting: Preferences >Analyse Options>Bpm Range

Adjust it to a range that gives better results.

What kind of music are you analysing?

Drumfunk makes Traktor have a fit. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Manually setting the grids although slightly time consuming is well worth it especially as traktors fxs all use the grids to work properly. I liked the video ean did where he uses master tempo to get consistant grids is handy for training your ear and gives your collection a uniform feel with regard grids. Also worth remembering that sometimes you don’t have to set the grid on the downbeat or bass drum but can use a snare which can help when you get them odd weird tracks. I like many others on here also warp the more funky tracks in my collection via ableton normally naking a re edit so I only warp the intro/outro leaving the body of song with the human feel as intended.

What controller do you use? Check out maps.djtt.com and look for some handy beat gridding mapping tools.

first I thank you all for the help. the music I playing is like (Techno - Techhouse) and my bpm range analyse is set on 75 - 155 (default) is it correct or I have to set it in different way? The controller is allen & heat dx . If is possible can you send me an image to see where the marker grid must be set because I can’t understand which is the max level of the wave and using the metronomo function it is not possible to set the grid correctly so I’d try to enlarge the track and set the marker looking where is the top of the wave. A last question? Using the function tempo synch (ear) the grid settings must be correct because it seems that synch is not good in same way.

Having spent years on traktor, Ableton, and serato at various points, I have yet to have any software properly auto-grid any song completely correctly. If it gets 20% right, either your standards are incredibly low or you should count yourself lucky. I hesitate to guess it’s the former just because in something like 8 years and thousands of tracks, I’ve literally never had one be right without tweaking.

Even when you get it right, you’ll still have to pitch bend to keep the attacks so that they both (all) hit right without canceling frequencies.

Fortunately, gridding is easy as sin and takes about ten seconds per track. It’s usually easiest to disable the auto-gridding, go ahead and build your overviews, and grid it the first time you play it. Plus, that way, if you see a 6-week old track without grids set, you can just take it out of your crate/folder because you’ll probably never pay it.

Of course, that also requires your controller/keyboard to be set up to do it efficiently.

Its the first tallest peak.

The left edge of the frame is basically correct for this sound. Yours will look “dirtier” or more complex.

Actually, I think the left edge is a bit too far to the right (guessing at what the sound is), but the Xone DX can pitch bend (with the platters), so you don’t need to be perfect as long as you’re consistent within the track.

Right on the “Pip”

Been having a few issues myself with the latest two versions of Traktor and the analysing of tracks

It’s seems that bulk analysing (as I used to do quite happily in the past) no longer works properly and every track always seems to end up 1bpm less than what it really is.

If I analyse tracks individually however it will generally get the tempo exactly right however the grid is off by a fraction when you switch the click track on. This is the same as ever with Traktor, 90% of tracks are like this, the rest (and often for no apparent reason) it simply can’t get it right!

I’ve generally found the grid lags slightly and clicking the nudge beatgrid button 4 to 6 times to the left gets it spot on.

I totally hear ya bro, I had gig last night, and was going well, I loaded a track, beatgrid was wrong, tried to compensate by quick moving and shrinking of grid, that didn’t work, reanalysed, and it set it back to the way it was before, lost the mix, and resorted to talking on mic to hide it, but, it’s one of those ‘rely on your ear’ jobs.. previously, the grids seemed (mostly) ok

^hate those moments! I don’t carry a mic though, nowhere to hide…

This is a great example of why sync DJs should have beatmatching skills. The technology will always fail.

While I agree with the first part, I disagree with the second.

The technology doesn’t fail. It works exactly like it’s made to. Garbage in, garbage out. If you actually set the grids right (potentially having to “fix” swing or funk or human drummers), it absolutely works.

But, yeah…there definitely comes a point when pitch faders are just easier. The thing is that if the track is hard enough to have problems beat-gridding, it’s probably not the simplest thing to mix by hand either.

If you’re good enough to ride pitch with live drummers, you’re probably good enough (at beatmatching) that sync doesn’t give you much anyway.

So, I guess the takeaway message is that pretty much anything automatic sucks, and if you’re going to use tools that do nothing but make your job easier, you should probably learn how to actually use them.

This situation wold never have happened if you A) cued up the track more than 5 seconds before playing it and B) turned off sync and matched the track (see A)

Thing is, I can beatmatch, and rarely use sync, was just being lazy I suppose