# Traktor Upgrade Path ?'s **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 24, 2011, 2:37pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/traktor-upgrade-path-s/33165 "2011-11-24T14:37:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Bassline\_Brine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/bassline_brine/32/15043_2.png) [@Bassline\_Brine](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Bassline_Brine)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2011, 2:37pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/traktor-upgrade-path-s/33165/1 "2011-11-24T14:37:42Z")
**Traktor Upgrade Path ?'s** So I’ve been talking with a friend of mine, who is having trouble figuring out his upgrade path with Traktor. Right now he’s stuck using Torq with his turntables, and then switching everything over to his SCS3 system if he wants to use Traktor. He currently has an Audio 4 DJ soundcard, and Traktor Pro 1. I believe he said he originally had Traktor Duo, but upgraded it to Pro. He wants to be able to use turntables with his setup, which he owns. What does he need to upgrade? With the upgrade discount, it’s in his best interest to upgrade now while it’s a lot cheaper. My thoughts would be that he needs to get: $40 **Traktor Pro 2 Update** - to get him up to speed for TP2 instead of TP1. And THEN he would just be able to get: $70 **Traktor Kontrol S4 upgrade kit** - to allow time-code control with his setup. The total cost for that comes out to about $110. Compared to the straight $170 price for a Traktor Scratch Pro 2 upgrade, it’s a big difference in price. Anyone able to help me out here? I’m not a native instruments guy, and just want to be able to help my boy figure this shit out. ---
**Author:** ![padi\_04](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/padi_04/32/56291_2.png) [@padi\_04](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/padi_04)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/traktor-upgrade-path-s/33165/2 "2011-11-24T15:35:42Z")
You can’t buy the S4 upgrade kit without owning the controller. ---
**Author:** ![Bassline\_Brine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/bassline_brine/32/15043_2.png) [@Bassline\_Brine](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Bassline_Brine)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2011, 3:41pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/traktor-upgrade-path-s/33165/3 "2011-11-24T15:41:52Z")
> [@](#): > > You can’t buy the S4 upgrade kit without owning the controller. Fair enough. That solves that issue then I guess. I guess I was just confused from other threads. Somehow I caught the idea that you could buy the upgrade path no matter what, and attach it to Traktor Pro. But, that answers that lol. I’ll let my buddy know then. ---
**Author:** ![padi\_04](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/padi_04/32/56291_2.png) [@padi\_04](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/padi_04)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2011, 3:44pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/traktor-upgrade-path-s/33165/4 "2011-11-24T15:44:26Z")
I would give NI a call (or wait till Karlos shows) before making the order, just in case 🙂. edit: I stand corrected [http://www.djtechtools.com/forum/showpost.php?p=385320&postcount=17](http://www.djtechtools.com/forum/showpost.php?p=385320&postcount=17) ---
**Author:** ![Karlos\_Santos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/karlos_santos/32/13263_2.png) [@Karlos\_Santos](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Karlos_Santos)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2011, 4:18pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/traktor-upgrade-path-s/33165/5 "2011-11-24T16:18:39Z")
> [@](#): > > You can’t buy the S4 upgrade kit without owning the controller. Yeah mate you can but you HAVE to have TP2 and an NI Audio card capable of DVS use: NI Audio 4/6/8/10 Example: If you have TP2 and an Audio 4 you can buy the S4 Upgrade kit to achieve DVS support and turn your TP2 into TSP2. ---
**Author:** ![sarasin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/sarasin/32/12614_2.png) [@sarasin](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/sarasin)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2011, 4:53pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/traktor-upgrade-path-s/33165/6 "2011-11-24T16:53:05Z")
So its the TP2 upgrade and then the S4 Timecode update? Sweet deal. Trying to get my mate to go NI. I got him the VCI100, TP1 and make an ‘overlay’ for him with little stickers. Told him to get an Audio 2 or 4…but he is slacking. Wanted to get a Roland Audio card. Told him it makes no sense. Get the NI Hardware and you WILL save when going TP2. Eish… ---
**Author:** ![padi\_04](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/padi_04/32/56291_2.png) [@padi\_04](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/padi_04)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2011, 5:17pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/traktor-upgrade-path-s/33165/7 "2011-11-24T17:17:40Z")
> [@Karlos\_Santos](#): > > Yeah mate you can but you HAVE to have TP2 and an NI Audio card capable of DVS use: NI Audio 4/6/8/10 > > Example: > If you have TP2 and an Audio 4 you can buy the S4 Upgrade kit to achieve DVS support and turn your TP2 into TSP2. I know, wouldn’t make much sense to have tsp2 with an audio2 anyways 🙂 He is planning to upgrade tp to tp2 first so he should be good, right? ---
**Author:** ![Bassline\_Brine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/bassline_brine/32/15043_2.png) [@Bassline\_Brine](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Bassline_Brine)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2011, 3:18am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/traktor-upgrade-path-s/33165/8 "2011-11-25T03:18:20Z")
Sounds good. Looks like I’ll be explaining to my friend how it will be MUCH cheaper to upgrade than he previously thought lol (and why he’s been putting it off) ---
**Author:** ![Karlos\_Santos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/karlos_santos/32/13263_2.png) [@Karlos\_Santos](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Karlos_Santos)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2011, 2:45pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/traktor-upgrade-path-s/33165/9 "2011-11-25T14:45:03Z")
> [@](#): > > I know, wouldn’t make much sense to have tsp2 with an audio2 anyways 🙂 > > He is planning to upgrade tp to tp2 first so he should be good, right? Yeah that would work but he would probably need to have TP2 registered before he can upgrade and buy the S4 upgrade. I guess he could speak to NI and purchase over the phone and maybe they will allow him to do it in one purchase but thats my hope. I cant say for sure. ---
**Author:** ![photojojo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/photojojo/32/14618_2.png) [@photojojo](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/photojojo)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2011, 2:55pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/traktor-upgrade-path-s/33165/10 "2011-11-25T14:55:46Z")
What about certified mixers, do they count? ---
**Author:** ![Karlos\_Santos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/karlos_santos/32/13263_2.png) [@Karlos\_Santos](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Karlos_Santos)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2011, 2:58pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/traktor-upgrade-path-s/33165/11 "2011-11-25T14:58:59Z")
Yep.