VCI-100 and Pro X Fade Crossfader - works :)

VCI-100 and Pro X Fade Crossfader - works :slight_smile:

Hey,

I’ve successfully integrated a Pro X Fade Crossfader into the VCI-100 :slight_smile:
Without going into detail: The feel is much better than with the standard crossfader. Excellent for sratchers!

More details and pictures here http://www.native-instruments.com/forum/showthread.php?t=71192

PXF in the VCI? Hotness indeed Paddy.

wow!

didn’t think something like this would work (thought the fader was midi/digital/too big)…

hats off to you!

off to ebay to find a pro xfade…

could i put a stanton focus fader in? i guess not… looked at the one i had - too big to fit in the vci…

this is awesome. hats off. looks like i got another vci project to look into / tackle.

(maybe move this thread to the custom forum though…?)

Please read post 15 in the Native forums to be sure you will not damage the unit if you want to get a PXF in it.

Short video with the PXF

awesome!!!

Totally awesome work dude, we should get this one on the blog :slight_smile:

oh my god!! nothing more to say…so awesome!

bought a pxf cheap on eBay, can’t wait to put it in!!!

You will not regret it!!!
Just tell us how good it is and have fun with it. :slight_smile:
Take pictures.. :smiley:
btw: don’t forget to adjust the PXF and particularly to use the caig deoxit on the rail the pxf is gliding on. It will make it run very smooth! If it does not, maybe the stem is rubbing against the faceplate. I’ve taken my faceplate off because this was the case. If you have other problem and the pxf doesn’t run in your vci as smooth as out of the box, just ask and I’ll help you, I’ve already gone through several things.
But I think it will work all well.

Is it already in your vci?

I successfully installed my pxf in my vci today!

really simple install thanks to the instructions from paddydj!

the lag time isn’t as tight as i’d like it to be so i have to open my vci back up and tweak it a bit… but other than that, a great cross fader in general, and works wonderful with the vci.

sorry no pictures… but trust me it sounds good!

EDIT!

Adjusted the Lag Time wheels again, much better, might even go sharper in a few weeks…

So Good!!!

I read this post ten thousand times and today is the big day, my PXF is on his way!!!

I read and prepared everything I can to install it…

I was just wondering what kind of tool do I need to use to remove the pins from the plastick socket, I presume I can use the screwdriver wich comes with the PXF?

Is there a particular method to achieve this, it’s very small and I don’t have the talent of a watch manufacturer?

Sooo excited!!!

Thank you so much for your help, big up to Paddydj!!!

I was wanting to do this mod since before i got my VCI.

Tell me…why did you do it?

What functionality did you want that you did not get from the original XFader?

I would also like to do it…but my idea was just from Scratching etc…but I have found that I can work it pretty well as is.

I suppose i am just looking for a for a few more reasons to get me over the edge.

:slight_smile:

The Pro X Fade has a slightly more weighty feel to it (not more resistance though), kinda hard to explain without actually having used one for yourself - it feels nicer, tthe tactile feel is definitely an improvement :slight_smile:

You can also adjust the midi cross fader dead zone so its nearly non-existent which is also quite nice. What i am talking about here is the slight movement either side of the crossfader where the crossfader isn’t triggering any midi response. This is quite off putting without a bit of practice with the standard crossfader, especially to those who have grown up using analogue mixers.

if you haven’t already read the article i recommend doing so - Upgrade Your VCI-100 CrossFader - DJ TechTools

Thanks again for the tutorial and the original post of Paddy DJ on the NI forum, I am using it with PDX 2000 and Cross for scratching only (no arcade buttons, sorry Ean, you are so talented but I am not an innovative “controllerist” - “Cue points buttons juggler”!!!)

  1. Use the Caig lube
  2. Set the cut at the minimum
  3. I put the faceplate of the VCI and had no problem with it
  4. I used the lighter adjustment for the tension (you can blow on it, it moves…)
  5. Sharp cuts, fast crabs & flares, amazing and even better than a lot of others analogue mixers (Vestax CF_PCV - Technics - Ecler not eternal…)
  6. Best mixer ever, because even if it is difficult to do some tears combos with the tiny jog wheels,but with a laptop, a soundcard and a backpack, you can scratch anywhere (except for doing tricks with the stiffest volume faders of the VCI - A.K.A the shame…), what can you do with a TTM 57 SL on vacations in your backpack… Watch it and be proud to have spent an indecent amount of money ???

Thanks again to Paddy DJ, Best mod ever for turntablists on vacations without turntables!!!

Yeah, I know all about the PXF and was waiting for the PXF 2, to be able to install in my DJM600 mixer.
I have since sold the mixer and bought the VCI.
I still own a pair of PDX 2000’s also.

What i want to know is (and i think i just answered it myself) is why you would want to use this on a VCI if the jog wheels are not exactly made for scratching.

I can scratch on the jog wheels better than i can with vinyl…LOL

So I just realised that you can use Traktor Scratch Pro using the VCI with Timecode Vinyls and then obviously the PXF…duh!

HEHEHHEHE

Is this correct?

I am about to buy Traktor Pro and seeing as I no longer have a mixer, only the VCI…I was pretty much forgetting about my PDX 2000’s.

So if i can run them via the VCI and use the Timecode Vinyls to control as well as the VCI jogs…that would just be fucking AWESOME.
( I had not yet thought of this scenario really)

So if thats the case…then I am going to get TSP instead and a set of Timecode Vinyls.
Then get the PXF so we can scratch.

I only have the Audio 4 DJ, so will need to upgrade to the Audio 8 if i want to use the Vinyls and VCI Jogs ( 4 decks in total)

Is this possible?

Please say YES!

If so…all my setup issues are gone!!!

Yes, I think it’s possible tu use your pdx’s with your VCI and audio 8 to have 4 decks control.

I use Cross with timecodes because I don’t have a lot of money and only need to use 2 decks…

you only need your Audio 4 …for your 2 PDX & the 2 Jogwheels
all you do is map the jogwheels & some button and knobs for decks 3 & 4…
& have time code vinly control decks 1 & 2

I’m thinking off a Innofader for my vci-100

What do you think Innofader VS ProXfader for my vci