# VCI-100SE TSI Version 2\_2 **URL:** \ **Category:** DJ TechTools' VCI-100 Product Support\ **Created:** [April 16, 2009, 9:06pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/vci-100se-tsi-version-2-2/3575 "2009-04-16T21:06:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![claudek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@claudek](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/claudek)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2009, 8:49am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/vci-100se-tsi-version-2-2/3575/41 "2009-04-20T08:49:00Z")
best to report this to NI.. serious bug for me ---
**Author:** ![Leon.R](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@Leon.R](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Leon.R)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2009, 9:56am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/vci-100se-tsi-version-2-2/3575/42 "2009-04-20T09:56:59Z")
> [@EanGolden](#): > > Just disable the “Initially cue to Load marker” setting in the preferences. Hi Guys, even with Eans suggestion to my stated problem " decks not playing after beiing copied" I am still dealing with the issue. Other posts (e.g. [brianpkelly@hotmail.com](mailto:brianpkelly@hotmail.com)) confirm I’m not the only one… I will mess around with it a bit more before I call it a bug… ---
**Author:** ![soerensus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/soerensus/32/15293_2.png) [@soerensus](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/soerensus)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2009, 12:35pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/vci-100se-tsi-version-2-2/3575/43 "2009-04-20T12:35:52Z")
> [@claudek](#): > > cool..I added just this to the advanced loop buttons..Is this all (see snap) Great feature. added it as well. ---
**Author:** ![Zac\_Kyoti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/53a042/32.png) [@Zac\_Kyoti](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Zac_Kyoti)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 2:54am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/vci-100se-tsi-version-2-2/3575/44 "2009-04-21T02:54:00Z")
> [@Leon.R](#): > > Other posts (e.g. [brianpkelly@hotmail.com](mailto:brianpkelly@hotmail.com)) confirm I’m not the only one… It’s not so much a bug as a change in function. I liked the way T3.4 did it too, but here’s the scoop with TPro. For deck duplicate to play right on copying: 1. Loading only into stopped deck should be off. 2. Stop playback at end of track should be off. 3. If you want the duplicated track to play at the same position as the source track, Initially cue to load marker should be off. 4. The target deck needs to be playing. \*If any buttons have commands attached to them that stop playback, it won’t work right. With these settings, duplicate works great for me, I use it to do juggles on time, and tricks like sampling and effecting the first deck, layering a longer loop, then doing the same on the 2nd deck. 4 unique pattern out of 2 decks!! ---
**Author:** ![claudek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@claudek](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/claudek)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 5:42am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/vci-100se-tsi-version-2-2/3575/45 "2009-04-21T05:42:45Z")
> [@Zac\_Kyoti](#): > > It’s not so much a bug as a change in function. I liked the way T3.4 did it too, but here’s the scoop with TPro. For deck duplicate to play right on copying: > > 1. Loading only into stopped deck should be off. > 2. Stop playback at end of track should be off. > 3. If you want the duplicated track to play at the same position as the source track, Initially cue to load marker should be off. > 4. The target deck needs to be playing. > > \*If any buttons have commands attached to them that stop playback, it won’t work right. > > With these settings, duplicate works great for me, I use it to do juggles on time, and tricks like sampling and effecting the first deck, layering a longer loop, then doing the same on the 2nd deck. 4 unique pattern out of 2 decks!! I have every loading pref disabled and nothing works for playing after deck copy in 1.1.2. ---
**Author:** ![Zac\_Kyoti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/53a042/32.png) [@Zac\_Kyoti](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Zac_Kyoti)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 9:09am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/vci-100se-tsi-version-2-2/3575/46 "2009-04-21T09:09:50Z")
> [@claudek](#): > > I have every loading pref disabled and nothing works for playing after deck copy in 1.1.2. What exactly does happen? Does playback stop? No load at all? Plays but at wrong position? FYI, I have everything unchecked in load prefs except “reset deck controls when loading” I’m using TPro 1.1.2, 2.4 Ghz macbook. Tested on Ean’s 2.2 tsi. Let’s try to narrow down the problem if we can. ---
**Author:** ![Leon.R](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@Leon.R](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Leon.R)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 9:46am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/vci-100se-tsi-version-2-2/3575/47 "2009-04-21T09:46:15Z")
Hi Zac, first of all, thx for trying to help out. The track copies as intended from thecurrent spot but does not start playing. Thats it. You can copie the deck, quickly hit cue and the hit play - bus this is a workaround and chances of having a “delay” between the tracks are high . And if options are set like “load to load point”(or what thats called) if you hit play you will jump to that point or even to the beginning of the track(with the current button mapping for cue, play, cue pause and so on). ---
**Author:** ![brianpkelly\_hotmail.com](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e9a140/32.png) [@brianpkelly\_hotmail.com](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/brianpkelly_hotmail.com)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 1:06pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/vci-100se-tsi-version-2-2/3575/48 "2009-04-21T13:06:40Z")
Hey Leon.R, I feel your pain. have you tried using the feature while the target deck is already playing AND all the load preferences unchecked? It will work if these conditions are met. However, if the target deck (the deck you want to copy to) is not actively playing a track, you will get a successful copy at the right location but the copied track wil not automatically start playing. Personally, Ive given up on this feature because i like the insurance of having “load only into stopped deck” checked in the loading preferences to avoid making the obvious mistake of accidently loading a new track into the audible playing deck and wreckin the shop. ---
**Author:** ![MisterMoleyMole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/mistermoleymole/32/12910_2.png) [@MisterMoleyMole](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/MisterMoleyMole)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 1:10pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/vci-100se-tsi-version-2-2/3575/49 "2009-04-21T13:10:13Z")
I dont seem to have any issues with this feature running 1.1.1 I have load into stopped deck on to so this seems to be a bit of a tempremental one. When you load in the tsi do you load in absolutely everything or do you desable any of the ticks ? ---
**Author:** ![brianpkelly\_hotmail.com](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e9a140/32.png) [@brianpkelly\_hotmail.com](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/brianpkelly_hotmail.com)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 1:34pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/vci-100se-tsi-version-2-2/3575/50 "2009-04-21T13:34:34Z")
to clarify again: i load everything as is from the tsi. tested on 1.1.1 and 1.1.2. IF I HAVE “load only into stopped deck” UNCHECKED (in fact, every preference unchecked) AND I TRY DECK COPY: \*into a stopped deck - it will copy at current location but wont start playing. \*into an already playing deck - it works as intended, deck copies and current location and target deck begins auto play from there. IF I HAVE “load only into stopped deck” CHECKED (and no other deck preferences checked) AND I TRY DECK COPY: \*into a stopped deck - it will copy at current location but wont start playing. \*into an already playing deck - it wont copy at all and the target deck flashes the message: DECK LOCKED - stop deck to load new track. if your setup is the same and get a different result from above, please reply ---
**Author:** ![Leon.R](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@Leon.R](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Leon.R)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 2:05pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/vci-100se-tsi-version-2-2/3575/51 "2009-04-21T14:05:22Z")
@MisterMoleyMole, Zac and others trying to help: [brianpkelly@hotmail.com](mailto:brianpkelly@hotmail.com) (post above) described the issue very well. Same problem for me as for him. ---
**Author:** ![MisterMoleyMole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/mistermoleymole/32/12910_2.png) [@MisterMoleyMole](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/MisterMoleyMole)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 2:25pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/vci-100se-tsi-version-2-2/3575/52 "2009-04-21T14:25:27Z")
Hmmmm i will try tonight when i get in and see if i get the same behaviour but as much as i dont use deck copy too much i know i have and didnt seem to have any problem apart from i seem to remember reading that there was a feature where it tuned the vulume down on teh deck your copying from and up on the one your copying to … this didnt work for me but the whole copying and playing did,. ---
**Author:** ![claudek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@claudek](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/claudek)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 2:38pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/vci-100se-tsi-version-2-2/3575/53 "2009-04-21T14:38:13Z")
this deck copy /play thing / bug is weird because I swear it worked once or a few times. I wonder if it is a modifier bug with deck copy or something. I have all loading prefs checked to off to test.. ---
**Author:** ![Zac\_Kyoti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/53a042/32.png) [@Zac\_Kyoti](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/Zac_Kyoti)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2009, 12:04am UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/vci-100se-tsi-version-2-2/3575/54 "2009-04-22T00:04:00Z")
> [@brianpkelly\_hotmail.com](#): > > to clarify again: > > i load everything as is from the tsi. tested on 1.1.1 and 1.1.2. The behavior brianpkelly described is accurate. It’s not a bug, this is the way NI designed the TPro software. I also think it sucks, because I like the “load only to stopped deck” insurance too, but it is what it is. If we want things to behave differently, we should ask about it in NI’s feature requests, or better yet, bring it up in the weekly Traktor on the Record sessions. We just need to be very specific about what we would want to change. (They don’t respond well to vague). Personally, I would just like to see the duplicate deck command execute independently of the “load only to stopped deck” pref. We may want to start a new thread about this particular issue too, to keep the 2.2 tsi thread on track. ---
**Author:** ![JAC](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/jac/32/3379_2.png) [@JAC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/JAC)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2009, 5:01pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/vci-100se-tsi-version-2-2/3575/55 "2009-04-22T17:01:48Z")
Hey guys, Just to say, deck copy works perfectly for me with ‘Load only into stopped deck’ turned on! I know this may just muddy the waters a bit but there must be some other reason it won’t work for you… ---
**Author:** ![claudek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@claudek](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/claudek)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2009, 5:17pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/vci-100se-tsi-version-2-2/3575/56 "2009-04-22T17:17:59Z")
> [@JAC](#): > > Hey guys, > > Just to say, deck copy works perfectly for me with ‘Load only into stopped deck’ turned on! I know this may just muddy the waters a bit but there must be some other reason it won’t work for you… what are your specs? Mac / PC /version? ---
**Author:** ![iancairns01iancairns01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/fbc32d/32.png) [@iancairns01iancairns01](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/iancairns01iancairns01)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2009, 6:19pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/vci-100se-tsi-version-2-2/3575/57 "2009-04-22T18:19:05Z")
> [@claudek](#): > > cool..I added just this to the advanced loop buttons..Is this all (see snap) i know you guys say this is easy but i tried there and really don’t know how its done, any chance you could give us a heads up on how this is done? I’m not lazy just not very smart 🙂 thanks! ---
**Author:** ![JAC](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.djtechtools.com/jac/32/3379_2.png) [@JAC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/JAC)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2009, 6:36pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/vci-100se-tsi-version-2-2/3575/58 "2009-04-22T18:36:22Z")
> [@claudek](#): > > what are your specs? Mac / PC /version? I’m PC, TPro version 1.1.1. My settings are as follows: - Load only into stopped deck - On - Stop playback at end of track - On - Load next at end of track - Off - Initially cue to load marker - On - Fade in & Fade out markers - Off - Reset deck controls when loading track - On - Reset mixer controls - Off I honestly don’t see what else it could be tho, I’ve just had a look at all the settings, all I did was import Ean’s tsi then turn on ‘Load only into stopped deck’…😕 > [@](#): > > i know you guys say this is easy but i tried there and really don’t know how its done, any chance you could give us a heads up on how this is done? I’m not lazy just not very smart thanks! Sure, I’ll break it into steps for you: - Go to preferences in Traktor, Midi Mapping tab - Go to Add - Tempo - Phase Sync - Switch ‘Assignment’ to Deck A/B/C/D - Click ‘Learn’ and then press the button you want to use on your controller. In this case I used the 4 Fx buttons on the right hand side of the Vci-100. - Repeat 1-3 for all four decks, using a different button for each. Just press ‘Duplicate’ on your original command in the Midi Mapping screen, then change the assignment. And that’s it, no need for modifiers or anything. Hope you get it to work. ---
**Author:** ![claudek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@claudek](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/claudek)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2009, 7:40pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/vci-100se-tsi-version-2-2/3575/59 "2009-04-22T19:40:10Z")
> [@iancairns01iancairns01](#): > > i know you guys say this is easy but i tried there and really don’t know how its done, any chance you could give us a heads up on how this is done? I’m not lazy just not very smart 🙂 thanks! I’m not even sure if mine is correct. I do not notice much a difference with or without.. ---
**Author:** ![claudek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@claudek](https://forum.djtechtools.com/u/claudek)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2009, 7:41pm UTC](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/vci-100se-tsi-version-2-2/3575/60 "2009-04-22T19:41:13Z")
> [@JAC](#): > > I’m PC, TPro version 1.1.1. > My settings are as follows: > > . This bug is focused on Traktor 1.1.2 [Previous page](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/vci-100se-tsi-version-2-2/3575.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forum.djtechtools.com/t/vci-100se-tsi-version-2-2/3575.md?page=4)