Vestax SPIN Mapping for Traktor Duo/Pro

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Vestax SPIN Mapping for Traktor Duo/Pro

Hello all,

I’ve been working on a simple and clean Traktor mapping for Vestax’s Spin controller together with Ean Golden for DJTT. The “SPIN Basic” mapping was designed to be able to work with Traktor Duo but will also work with Traktor Pro (it is a 2 Deck, 2 FX Bank based mapping). The mapping also employs a Fader FX mode and an Instant FX button in addition to other typical controls.

The tsi and a labeled Mapping layout JPEG are attached with this post. Most functions should be self explanatory after viewing the mapping layout (especially if you are familiar with the VCI-100 mapping); however, if there are any questions please feel free to ask. Anything which was not labeled on the Mapping layout (e.g., the EQ faders) functions essentially as its original label.

First off, I will explain a few things that may not be obvious from the layout.

-The existing “Gain” faders control the 5 FX Presets (with corresponding LEDs) for each FX Bank. As you move the fader, the FX Presets will instantly change signified by the LED moving next to it.

-FX Parameter1 is always dedicated to the Instant FX button. Currently, the Instant FX parameter is set to Beatmasher for every FX Preset (there will be different FX settings for different FX Presets in the future). While holding the Instant FX button, you can control the instant fx rate by moving the jog wheel.

-FX Parameters 2 & 3 are reserved for Fader FX mode where touching the Jog Wheel will activate FX Parameter3, moving the Jogwheel will control the FX Parameter3 amount and the FX Dry/Wet, and the level fader will activate/control the FX Parameter2 amount and the FX Dry/Wet.

In the future, the FX Presets and Instant FX settings will likely be tweaked to offer the best possible combinations; however, for now these should suffice. On that note, I’ve commented every line in the mapping for easy understanding and editability. For instance, the FX Presets are very easy to locate and change should you be inclined to.

If enough Spin owners have interest in this mapping, DJ Techtools may begin creating overlays and upkeep an official mapping for the Spin controller so please share your thoughts and opinions!

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this is non responsive for me any time I try and play with the gain faders (the center two faders)

thank you for your hard work! hopefully we will be able to get this similar to the vci mappings level!

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Does this completely freeze your controller, or can it be re-awoken by pressing the Play button in Traktor (via your computer)? I experienced that a few times but never to the point I couldn’t get it to work again.

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your trick fixed it. But what is causing this? I could see this being terrifying during a performance!

(I am new to DJing, but I would love to help with the mapping. I need to learn about mapping, modifiers, etc, after this semester is over)

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Unfortunately I’m not quite sure what the issue is right now. It could potentially be sending more midi data across the controller than it was designed to handle, but I certainly would hope that’s not the case. The issue was somewhat intermittent on the Spin I was using, so I was hoping that my controller was faulty and it not be a result of the tsi.

I’m very curious though to see how consistent the controller freezing up issue is with other Spin users. If anyone tests it out, please share your input.

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Looking at the work oldfashioned has done in his topic, this problem seems to be related with the LED’s next to the gain faders. If you disable sending output to those LED’s everything works as intended.

I’ve tried playing with your TSI yesterday without touching the gain faders, and it still locked up after half an hour. You can “resurrect” it by clicking on the play button, but that’s not very useful when playing a set is it. :wink:

Besides that, you’ve made a very nice mapping! Kudo’s!

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I’m definitely interested in a fully stable tsi for the Spin.

I’ve had a play with Oldfashioned’s but unfortunately it’s locked up on me a couple of times so I’m probably not going to run with it out live.

I’m surprised nobody has been able to extract a mapping from the Typhoon yet - I know they’re not on sale but they are doing the shows.

In the meantime it’s either Traktor and a mouse or DJay and the Spin for tomorrow night!

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Every mapping has locked up for me, even self-made ones with just the play button mapped. It’s because of the output signals.
If I map a play button without mapping the LED associated with it, I can hit it as much as I want, it won’t lockup.
If I however, map the output to the LED, my controller will lock up after a while of hitting the play button.

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Very surprising to hear that OldFashioned’s .tsi doesn’t work for you. What kind of laptop/computer are you using? I only have the default keyboard mapping and OldFashioned’s SPIN mapping and it works great, including the LED outputs.

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I’m pretty sure he’s using a Mac, just like me…

I’ve already found out with other controllers that OS X’s tighter MIDI timing isn’t always working in it’s advantage.
I’ve had a Reloop controller which refused to light up 2 or more LED’s at the same time because of that. On Windows (whichever version) there were no problems at all.

It seems this problem may also be related to that.

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I use a MAC too and I’ve tested OldFashioned’s configuration on both the MAC and PC. I’m using OSX 10.5.8 if that helps.

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That’s really weird. I can easily reproduce a crash by just hitting the play button repeatedly. It will crash eventually. If I won’t do it on purpose but am doing a set, it happens in about an half hour, and after that every few minutes.

Makes me want to sell it and buy a VCI-100 and get over with it…

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I can attest to the fact that the spin does freeze up occasionally. Luckily it can easily be fixed by pressing the play button, or if that doesn’t work, press play manually with the cursor in Traktor. I notice that it tends to freeze sometimes when I press pause and play quickly, or one of the cue jump buttons quickly.

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I did a few gigs over the past weekend which were 3+hrs and the freeze only occured once, and after it had happened it did not occur again.

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Ordered my Spin back in February…lol. Hope to try this and oldfashioned’s TSI out later.

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I’ve been reading the threads on this TSI and the other one created by oldfashioned: DJ TechTools Forums and I’ve noticed there have been talks of the Spin freezing on people. I’m in real need of a MIDI controller and I’m seriously considering getting a Spin if I can learn more about this freezing issue. What exactly happens when it freezes, does Traktor freeze as well or is it just the controller? Can it be fixed easily, what are some ways to prevent it, etc.? Also, if any of you have tried out the other mapping, which one did you like more? This one or that one?

Thanks everyone.

Edit: Link won’t work. Maybe this will this time: Vestax Spin Traktor 1.2.3 TSI Fully Working

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Mine freezes a lot on me with Traktor 1.2.4 on my Macbook Pro.

No gain faders?

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I have realized a Def & mapper for Virtual DJ and I don’t see any freeze on it, I have mapped also the vu meter leds without problems, I think traktor have some “funnel” limit problem on the midi IN/OUT but the controller have no one problem.

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The “freezing” problem, as it was mentioned on this forum and others, is related top the LED range, and will occur with any MIDI applications if you enable both MIDI IN and OUT.

oldfashioned (known as Architech on the Traktor forum) was able to correct this issue by changing the LED range in the Traktor MIDI config, as explained in this thread:

http://www.native-instruments.com/forum/showthread.php?t=101836

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MIDI range is indeed causing the freezing issues! I really need to get going now, but I will surely cooperate later! As some of you may know, I am currently working on a 4 deck version TSI, started completely from scratch, but I will gladly help with whatever I can here!

I’ll test this TSI later in the evening!

Cheers guys and c u soon!