what do you prefer?

what do you prefer?

do you prefer a more traditional set where the person is simply mixing music and having things flow beautifully making a nice fluent mix

or do you prefer the real choppy harsh cut ins and outs that make the mixes sound really glitchy and messy yet still awesome at the same time. i seem to be seeing more and more of this everyday. obviously with the setups and equipment you can buy these days its easy to get into this. lots of samples being used flying through 10 songs in a minute etc.

what do people prefer to listen to and whats more fun to play?

They’re opposite ends of the spectrum, mate.

A bit like the difference between full contact Kung Fu and Katate Katas.

Sometimes I like to mix a bunch of songs smoothly, playing most of each track, with little in the way of FX and scratching, and sometimes I like to cut the fuck out of 10 tracks in a minute, using loops and one shots, with spin backs and tt brakes all over the shop.

Depends what kind of mood I’m in.

haha i like this.
ya i guess its all in what your feeling at the moment and obviously what everyone wants to hear.
sometimes i wish i never seen some of the videos cause it makes me feel like i suck big time. lol
…person living above me doesn’t seem to mind my crap tho…

yes…

I always like it flowing and having the tracks with no fx, or at least very smooth ones.

It’s very hard to convince me it was better to use an FX then to leave the track the way it was… I laugh sometimes at “new fx technique” videos that I see, most of the tips are just destroying the flow of the music IMO.

I don’t know the others but, for me, it’s much more relevant to play awesome-unknown-music than to chop and screw things I am already tired of.

Pretty much the same over here. I like to mix smoothly, use little to no fx and just have ace song selection! :slight_smile:

For me personally, if I am going to listen to a mix or see a DJ live I would far rather connect with them through the choice of tracks they play.

Some of my favourite mixes of all time are the classic Sasha/Digweed mixes, and the '99 Oakenfold world tour mixes for the essential selection.

A lot of DJs would probably consider these sets ‘boring’ by modern standards as they are little more than standard “A-B” mixing but yet they connect with me on a level that no amount of trick loop/sample/effect mashing ever does. John 00 Flemming is another example who still adheres to this philosophy, in fact I believe it was him who wrote an article on the reluctance of many modern clubs to book DJs to play 3 or 4 hour sets these days.

There is certainly a place for the exciting technical stuff, and indeed I enjoy watching videos of people really pushing the equipment to it’s limits, chopping stuff up, using acapellas etc (Dj Antonin being a particular favourite of mine in this regard), but where I draw the line is going to a local bar/club and having DJ Ego mashing up top-40 stuff to the point of playing a minute or so of each then slamming into the next one. You see groups of people (particularly women) who hear a song they love, make their way to the dancefloor and just as they get there DJ Ego has slammed into his next mashup so back they go to their seats/the bar.

As for playing, I generally prefer the first approach and this is what I will use in any mixes I put together, or when playing out, and it seems to get the most appreciation. I do however love messing around when I am playing for myself, trying out different techniques and playing just specific bits of tracks cut up with loops & backspins etc.

However I feel the only people who really appreciate this stuff is other DJs!

It’s also worth pointing out that different genres suit different mixing styles. If I am playing some funky house stuff I’ll often use shorter blends paying particular attention to not have keys/vocals clashing, if it’s happy hardcore it will be short-ish blends using the EQs as kill-switches (to swap bass over etc) or slamming the channel faders in & out, using quick filter sweeps on the buildups to transitions keeping the energy level as high as possible. Trance will be much more sutble, using tracks that really blend well together with much longer, subtle mixes, carefully working the EQs to transition as seemlessly as possible.

There is definately a place for all, but if I am listening to a mix/DJ its all about what tracks he/she plays that makes me have an awesome experience- too much chopping/mashing/EFX and not enough actual music spoil it for me :slight_smile:

I love it when the DJ throws the flanger on the master at about 70% and then blends… Talk about a smooth way to transition and take the listeners on a journey into hell.

could be a reason why it rhymes with danger…

It’s funny how DJ software companies work so hard on developing complex FX stuff while the common sense is to use the least FX possible…

Both, because I know how not to overuse effects. I also like to hear DJs who know how to use effects. I also like just mixing one song into another, it really depends on how it’s done… There’s really nothing worse than horribly used effects. Drunk guys overusing beat mashers and the 1/8 delay need to quit and never return.

^this for the most part. very few exceptions.

Touche

Depends on the music style.

bang bang bang bang music, smooth mixes flowing, minimal cut ups / no abrasive mixes, the odd film sample (with obvious drug references) can be acceptable 1-2 times in a mix, but less is more.

But for other styles it suits it better. drumnbass can switch the styles up, chop between tracks, tease in, double, triple drops etc.

Totally circumstantial. I think any good DJ or even music enthusiast can appreciate and see the merit in both. Personally I’m a techno guy so i’m into loong, 4 deck sets with lots of bass swaps and gradual loops/builds/breakdowns. I can also dance to that style of set for hours in say an after-hours type setting.

On the other hand, the shift we’re seeing toward shorter, glitchier mashup sets with elements taken from all over the place and one shot samples being used like instruments is pretty sick as well. Nobody can deny that the stuff that say Madeon or even DJTT’s Mad Zach is doing is dope.

Probably takes as much time to plan out one of those short 10 minute mashup sets as it does to throw together a playlist for a 3 hour traditional set lol

technical mixes don’t have to be choppy or harsh :stuck_out_tongue: there are lots of very very technical djs who make musically good mixes

Most the ‘technical’ DJs bore/shit me to tears. Even guys that play music I enjoy like Zabiela sometimes over does it in my eyes. Don’t even get me started on the idea of mashing up a million songs in a short time… I think growing up idolizing DJs like Digweed, Sasha, Pappa, Hernan etc have shaped the way I enjoy hearing a DJ play. True technical ability in my eyes is what guys like Jeff Mills do.

Track Selection > Technical ability (especially FX)

Yes.

Tracks are mixes already. They already have effects. You can’t beat something did with extreme precision and with proportionally infinite time. Also, lack of timming precision on live stuff annoys me more than it should…

I truly believe there is space for complex FX techniques, Remix Decks, etc. But I am simply not in this space.

This. Generally I prefer A to B style mixing but LOVE it when a skilled DJ can use effects sparingly (a few times in a whole night is plenty for me) to really get the crowd going. A house DJ who is good with filters or a tech house DJ who can apply delays at the right time is icing on the cake to me.

Not a fan of the type of DJ who tries to do hey-look-at-me controllerism routines all night like someone mentioned earlier in the thread… I respect the talent & practice needed for that style but don’t want to hear it in a club. Kind of like turntablism.

i’m more into long mixes that quick technical stuff. i’ve watched the whole hour long zabiela setup video and i don’t really notice much difference in the mixes with all the extra oscillators, efx and whatnot. maybe he like carrying all that stuff lol