whats your take on the Mau5?

whats your take on the Mau5?

http://mag.di.fm/music/straight-from-deadmau5/

Recently Joel was quoted in a statement of mediocrity towards djs inevitably calling them cunts.

Although a little brash I do understand what the intention on the statement was as i myself have seen many dj’s over the years that have not pushed themselves past beat matching.

Although I would not say I hate them or call them fucking cunts.

Do you think this will effect the Mua5? On The Circuit? In Sales? with the recent Grammy Nomination?

Cause he does not know digital djing yet, and what we do with our mixes :smiley: I honestly do not like more than maybe 1% of his tracks anyways, so he can say what he wants, I played him once only anyways, cause I find his music rather “Mediocre” lolz. Anyone can make minimal crap like that :wink: (take the last comment with a pinch of salt PLEASE!!)

So if you like his tracks, he’s right, but if you don’t like his tracks, he isn’t?

He lost his edge after his first few tracks that are now played out .

It’s funny how hard people were sweating him during WMC when cats like A-Trak, Jesse Rose, Drop The Lime were down there playing sets that were 100x hotter .

Nope, cause even if I liked his music, I would disagree with his statement “Djs are cunts…” :smiley:

I’m sure this statement was taken a bit out of context I’m sure the publication that printed this statement wanted to be noticed so they do an interview with a fairly boring producer that the masses thinks is shit hot and flip it to make him sound like an asshole so people will actually read the interview and not fall asleep doing it .

I think a more honest statement would be DJ’s CAN BE arrogant self important little cunts I know I’ve been on both ends of that statement .

I agree with Deadmau5, alot of Djs are over-rated…but Im not going to a club and start saying that trash out loud.

“PLAY/PAUSE/SYNC?” (So sad, but very true about today digital dj’s)

…Im not trying to flame on anyone, but it goes back to the thread about digital dj’s being accepted.

-Peace to All The DJ’s

And I agree with JesC. :wink:

Theres alot of bad digital acts giving us a bad name out there, its so sad.

Especially the Ableton Dj who has a his mix all lined up in ableton and just stands infront of the mixer eqing and crossfading - i think that has to be our biggest killer at the moment.

Funny that’s about what it looked like what Dead Mau5 was doing when I saw him lol .

Edit, please remove this post, delete it and any other post that I wrote about this article. I actually do not give a flying rats ass what he said, or how the newspaper bent the statement. If he said what he did, so be it, if not, so be it as well. :slight_smile:

There are way more interessting things to discuss than what people say and do, and I normally do not pick up on gossip, and should not have on this one either. I hate gossip!

I do agree with the mau5 to some degree. Perhaps not in the way it was stated, but the point for sure.
Dj’s do need to push themselves further then just beat matching and sliding the x-fader from deck a to b.

I would obviously assume to the statement was picked out of context and has blown out of proportion.

I do not agree with Bentosan about the ableton Dj’s (Bassnectar rocks his sets out on just a laptop and a trigger finger), except for in the same context of the statement. If they are just fading from one track to the next and not trying to utilize the equipment/software to its and their fullest potential. The for sure mediocre.

in a few days everyone will forget what the mau5 said in some mediocre irish interview.

I am definantly not putting all Ableton djs in the same basket here(infact there are plenty of Ableton artists that have been source of inspiration for me).

I was just simply saying that there are plenty of Ableton djs out there getting payed who are rocking up to gigs with a complete playlist already set out on the arangment view. All leaves all them to do is stand infront of the mixer crossfading/eqing from track to track - theres a world of difference between that and people like Bassnectar dropping in samples or loops, or whatever he might be doing with his midi controller.

Its really no wonder the haters want to see some beatmatching if thats whats going on behind alot of mixers. Its going to take more than that to gain the respect of the haters, you know it’s a pretty sad state of affairs if that is your competition :\

oh and don’t forget the ableton cats that have there whole set out in arrangement view, and all the do is look at the computers and add fx in every single part of the song.

I use ableton but at the beggining of a gig i have 4 songs planed out already and thats it, just to give me time to get situated and figuring out the crowd and sometimes i never get passed the third one i planned out because i found something better.

but who cares we will shine soon,

First things first he made a very good point but said it in such a CNUT-ish manner.

What the Mau5 has to remember is that DJ-ing started with “play/stop/pitch” but has evolved over the years and branched off down different roots but the “play/stop/pitch” DJ still plays some killer sets across the globe. He cant completely write off traditional DJ-ing as it was from there that our new DJ-ing world has come from.

Personally I am a total gear head (in the sense I love gadgets) and I love seeing and hearing DJ’s mixing sounds/songs/samples live. I think these type of DJ’s are more skilled and talented than your “play/stop/pitch” DJ’s like Tiesto for example. He does not even utilise the full potential of the CDJ1000!!! I have been spinning the decks for around 8 years and I think I could beat match and cross fade in tunes all night just as well as the big boys (I am not trying to sound big headed and I am sure a lot of you will agree with me).

At the end of the day like everything else in this world, DJ-ing has evolved and DJ’s need to evolve with it. Gone are the days of “play/stop/pitch” DJ’s playing beat matched tune after tune and enter the digital age where remixing tunes live is the only way to stay on top.

Id have to agree with him to a certain extent. Its not everyone. Quite a lot of the performances Ive seen, specially over the past year have been quite good and its been very interesting seeing how people are implementing and using new technology to enhance the experience as a whole. There are however those guys that have been around forever and developed a following and are still actively doing the club scene and seem to have given up or fallen into a routine…cough…ATB…cough.. cough…

I had a blast seeing the Mau5 at Webster Hall Thanksgiving Eve. Overall I have absolutely seen better live shows. He did good enough but he didn’t have a well developed sense for building emotions with the tracks it seemed. He did do a 20 minute stretch though of some really bassy mellow stuff that actually came across really well.

As a producer I give him props and respect. Hes a Moog fanatic and he surely knows a thing or two about hardware and wiring and so on. As a DJ he can put on a fairly good show but there are much better… If you get the chance you should read this. Shows his producer and Techie side in a better light than this previous article. And yes he is cocky as all hell regardless of talent or not…

Oh well, about some live acts and THEIR music…

http://www.deadact.com/

I would not post this normally, because it is all about PsyTrance, but Moldover was featured as a COOL ACT, and I though people should know :slight_smile: I love that site by the way, nice to see the fakes some artists go through, and how stupid they look doing so.

There are more faking ARTISTS in the scene than there are djs (Talking about PSY now eh) :slight_smile:

nemo, that was GREAT!!! Sad yet great at the same time. Very clever idea and who knows it just might persuade people to think twice given enough time. Highly unlikely but we can all hope. And yes its pretty cool seeing Moldover mentioned as a real performer. Thanks

LOL. That’s hilarious. This totally explains why Deadmau5 blows as a live act. I’ve seen him several times in San Francisco. Once at Mighty and once at Ruby Sky. Both times, he was next to horrible as a DJ. His set arrangement was completely wack. The crowd only danced thanks to the alcohol… mostly it just stood and watched that mouse head he wears. He clearly thought he could just put all his tracks in Ableton, throw on that mouse head and that zip-up he always wears, press play and call it a show. That said though, my friend still fucked him after the show. So I guess he’s got the game part of the DJ thing down… But that might be questionable too, cuz I think the conversation went like this. “F: Hey Deadmau5, I totally love your music. D: Oh yeah, what are you doing after the show? F: Going to your hotel. D: Okay”

Cheers and thanx for all the replies

For sure Bento you are right in saying that about the ableton djs. That goes right down to just being a lazy dj.

I dont understand the point of paying all this money for gear and then just sitting there and really only using the play button.

I was alittle astonished about the mau5 comment because not seeing him live, I have seen many videos of hiim playing, yes using a set of cdj’s and essentially doing the same thing he “hates dj’s” for. I know most his sets now these days entail ableton and a Lemur.